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    Lee Allen
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    I was cruising the laser manufacturer websites looking for a diode for bleaching when I came upon the Biolase site with the newest version of the Waterlase.

    Waterlase MD

    It is variable in pulse rate (didn’t Bob Gregg predict this two years ago on this forum?) and an increased power range up to 8.0 watts, an illuminated handpiece (my suggestion to Keith Bateman two years ago along with many other users, I am sure) and a new screen control pad.

    The site says:

    The SensaTouch™ Laser Control System

    The Waterlase® MD features a dazzling, new high-resolution control system, using Windows® CE with intelligent touch-screen navigation for complete on-the-fly control. Whether you need advice for choosing a tip for a procedure, or suggestions for power settings, the Waterlase MD’s new LaserPal™ help system is at your service.

    SensaTouch™ uses high-resolution screens to adjust aiming beam intensity, handpiece illumination intensity, air/water spray, and much more.

    SensaTouch™ Features
    10 to 50 hz selectable pulse repetition rate for expanded versatility across all tissue types Touch-screen control system features Windows® CE

    Unique, selectable pulse modes for hard and soft tissue, with enhanced coagulation capabilities 0.1 to 8.0 watts of power for precise, rapid tissue ablation

    16 optimized, factory-loaded pre-sets for new users and completely customizable for experienced laser dentists

    On-the-fly LaserPal™ help system to enhance training.

    I think I would enjoy the variable pulse rate, and the illuminated handpiece. I posted somewhere, in the soft tissue section I think, about the variable rate that the Er YAG can do and was asking Glenn about the tissue effects. So this question may be moot with these new capabilities. Do you think that the 0.1 W will help with enhanced coagulation? Or would changing the Hz have more effect? Or is this smoke and mirrors and not an enhanced effect? My guess is that the lower W and higher Hz could “boil” blood if no air and water used to get an enhanced coagulation effect.

    What say you all?

    Wow, illuminated handpiece.

    Let there be two kinds of light. :cheesy: I love it.

    #7780 Reply

    Anonymous
    Guest

    I’d also like to know about the selectable pulse modes- I assume free running and rock.gif

    #7789 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Congrats to Biolase for the new machine. It will force all the laser companies to re-evaluate their units and bring out the 2nd generation of units and that is good for ALL laser users.

    It seems like a significant upgrade for Biolase and kudos to them for this.

    COngrats to Biolase again and hopefully other companies will follow suit with new machines as well.

    Exciting times indeed!!

    Glenn

    #7795 Reply

    Swpmn
    Spectator

    Took a look at the WaterlaseMD yesterday:

    1) First thing you notice is the size – smaller than the Waterlase.  Casing has an area to store the foot pedal, power cord and air line when the laser is moved.  Irrigation water supply seems easier to change than the Waterlase.

    2) Optical fiber suspension system is improved – a telescopic arm with a hinge at the base

    3)  Handpiece is markedly improved.  Truly contra-angled just like a high speed handpiece. Handpiece “head” is much smaller than Waterlase which should improve visualization of treatment site along with the LED illumination.  Also the water spray is more focused on the target site rather than the “shotgun” spray of the Waterlase.  Back of the gold mirror is seen on the top of the handpiece head similar to the Opus Duo Er – perhaps to allow easier access for cleaning.

    4) Console Control and Tech Specs

    There is a colored, pop-up, touch-screen monitor used to control the laser.  Console average power readout varies from 0.1W to 8.0W.  Maxium energy setting still listed as 300mJ.  Pulse Rate may be adjusted in increments of 5 from 10 to 50 Hz.  There is an “H”(hard tissue) mode where the Pulse Duration/Width is 140 usec.  An “S”(soft tissue) mode is available and the Pulse Duration is 700 usec.

    When one touches the four presets previously available on the Waterlase, a subsequent screen opens revealing four customizable pre-sets within each master pre-set, thus providing 16 pre-sets.  There is a “Setting” touch area which allows the operator to adjust the intensity of the LED illumination as well as the aiming beam 630-655nm intensity.  Within this area, a “Calibration” area was also noted.  There is a “?” mode which provides feedback on recommended power settings or tip selection.  Also, the unit alerts the operator when the water in the irrigation bottle is getting low and I was told the the laser can detect “bad” tips.
    …….

    Just a side observation – I saw no mention of the term “Hydrokinetics” in any of the presentation or materials related to the WaterlaseMD.

    Al

    #7799 Reply

    cerecdoc
    Spectator

    This sounds very exciting.  I like the variable pulse, of course, and the contra angle.  I never did really like the fully 90degree angle.  And the LED should be VERY nice.

    I wonder about the 8 watts.  I’m afraid to cut at 6 watts now for fear of blowing a fiber, or a mirror.  And 6 watts is quite fast enough to blow enamel away!  

    I wonder if the 8 watts is just to show inexperienced docs at the shows how fast it cuts on dried out pig jaws!

    But if the faster hertz will enable the erbium to do the same (heating) as a diode or NdYag in a sulcus, then that would be very significant.

    It does sound like all other erbiums better run for cover with those specs, however!

    But the sale doldrums which Biolase was accused of being in had little to do with the competition lasers anyway.  And more to do with the price of gas and its effects on us all.

    This might just solve their inventory problem. The crystals from the old models, and even the trade in’s should be able to be used in the new models. And since they take a full two years to grow. That must be a significant part of the cost of the units.

    Sirona is pathologically obsessed with destroying every CEREC 2 in the world! They’re afraid the new buyers will find out that it’s just as easy to do onlays, (the way they are currently teaching them to be done), on the &#3610,000.00 E-bay versions of the CEREC 2’s as it is on the &#3692,000.00 CEREC 3D’s. I saw it with my own eyes last week!

    (Edited by cerecdoc at 12:26 am on Oct. 3, 2004)

    #7792 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Great post Allen, it seems like signficant improvements have been made in the version. I like the variable pulse, the changes in the fiber, the foot pedal that has a spot (mine are always in the way), the variable hertz rates and the lack of hydrokinetics are huge improvements in my mind.

    I would imagine that the long pulse width might as Bob Gregg has told us, be much better for soft tissue surgery.

    Allen, I always enjoy your posts, they are thoughtful and address concerns that experienced users might be interested in.

    Larry, you posts always are interesting too. Why is it that you think other manufacturers will run and hide. Do you think the other manufacturers perhaps have been working as well on new units??

    I always smile when I read your posts………not necessarily for the same reason that I smile when I read Allens ones though.

    Glenn

    #7779 Reply

    Anonymous
    Guest
    QUOTE
    Quote: from Glenn van As on 11:38 am on Oct. 3, 2004

    I would imagine that the long pulse width might as Bob Gregg has told us, be much better for soft tissue surgery.

    Glenn

    Good question, Glenn. I hope Bob weighs in on this (eric?).

    Just off the top of my head my concerns would be that, while the longer pulse width will help with coagulation, this will not be comparable to ndyag or diode because of the difference in penetration depth.

    I was looking at the Biolase website and it lists the following specs for MD-

    Wavelength:  Er,Cr3+:YSGG, 2780 nm  
    Power:  0.1 to 8.0 W  
    Repetition Rate:  10 to 50 Hz  
    Pulse Energy:  300 mJ  
    Laser Classification:  IV  
    Operating Voltage:  115 VAC~± 10%  
    Dimensions:  12.5 x. 26 x 32 in  
    Weight:  75lbs  

    and for the Waterlase

    Power: 0.0 – 6.0W

    Pulse Energy: 0 – 300 mJ

    Laser Classification: IV

    Operating Voltage:115 VAC~± 10%

    Dimensions: (Wx L x H): 12.5 x. 26 x 32 in

    Is it smaller, or just in appearance, or is the website incorrect?

    #7781 Reply

    dkimmel
    Spectator

    It is a pretty slick unit!
    Allen did a great job of detailing the changes.
    There are a couple of other neat features.
    The waterbottle is now a sealed pressurized unit that a IV bag can be place in if you are using sterile water. It also has a sensor to tell you when you are getting low on water.
    The tips are now color coded and the unit will tell the different the energy levels for each tip.
    Word is the 50HZ on the softtissue settings is a real smooth cut. It will be interesting to see what Mark C can now do with his crown preps.

    I did upgrade this weekend. Rather a nobrainer. They offered to take my unit back and credit it less depreciation. The deal is they take what you paided for the unit less &#362000 for the first month and &#361000 for each addition month you have had the unit. So if you paid &#3650,000 for your Waterlase and had it for 4 months, they would credit you &#3645,000 toward the Waterlase MD.

    #7790 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Ron: another thing that laser physics will teach you is that no matter how long the Pulse Duration is, the wavelength is NOT well absorbed in hemoglobin. This is a big factor for all erbiums in the family. They arent soft tissue lasers no matter how long or short the PD is.

    Ps I am looking at your case right now.

    Glenn

    #7794 Reply

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    So how much is this MD selling in US ?
    I heard that their target clients are mainly for Oral surgery use with the MD. Less emphasis on no shot no pain.
    As I’m beginning to get used to the Opus Erbium on trial, now I’ll wait and see.
    Ken

    #7786 Reply

    spider24
    Spectator
    QUOTE
    Quote: from Glenn van As on 1:33 am on Oct. 4, 2004
    Ron:  another thing that laser physics will teach you is that no matter how long the Pulse Duration is, the wavelength is NOT well absorbed in hemoglobin.  This is a big factor for all erbiums in the family.  They arent soft tissue lasers no matter how long or short the PD is.

    Ps I am looking at your case right now.

    Glenn

    Thats my opinion too ! But neverless the MD will be a challenge for other companies when i see the specs. It will set new standards in hard tissue treatment.

    Olaf

    #7791 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Olaf: I totally agree that Biolase has built a machine to be envied. I do hope all the bugs are out when it comes out and if so, then this will set the bar for other companies to improve upon.

    I still use my erbium for lots of soft tissue understanding its limitations for soft tissue surgery in inflamed areas due to its absorption spectrum, and its lack of sensitivity in being absorbed by mutliple tissues (both hard and soft). As a cutter it is faster than any of the soft tissue wavelengths I have used. (Argon and two wavelengths of diode (980 and 810) clinically).

    Glenn

    #7796 Reply

    Swpmn
    Spectator
    QUOTE
    Dimensions: (Wx L x H): 12.5 x. 26 x 32 in

    Is it smaller, or just in appearance, or is the website incorrect?

    Excellent observation, Ron. To me, the WaterlaseMD appeared smaller than the Waterlase, and the latter was in abundance at the booth. Just out of curiosity I measured my Waterlase this PM and got 11.5 X 26 X 32.

    Perhaps Kimmel can offer his opinion on size comparison.

    Al

    #7783 Reply

    dkimmel
    Spectator

    There must be a mistake on the measurements as it is smaller. The height as I remember is about the same. The length is slightly less and it is skinner.
    Then again it is a darker color and that would make it look smaller as well as it is more angular and less rounded.
    All I know for sure is Susan thinks its sexer looking and she said I could up-grade!
    Live is good.
    Now if I could get her to let me buy the Periolase!!! Think they may make a sexer looking unit soon???

    DAvid

    #7785 Reply

    mickey frankl
    Spectator

    David,what is the price of this new waterlase?

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