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ASISpectatorGreeting to all:
1. Would appreciate inputs and opions from everyone about the pros and cons of Waterlase vs Delight.
2. Would like to know breakdown of numbers of user to each system.
3. Knowing what you know, if you were to repurchase one, which would it be?
Thanks for your anticipated response.
Regards to all,
Andrew
Glenn van AsSpectatorAndrew: email me privately and I will forward to you the names of at least 6 people who have both in their office or have had both in their office for extended periods of time and you can email or phone them to find out their experiences with both lasers.
Most of the people here havent had both in their office including me.
I have played with the Biolase only a few times and it is a nice machine.
I have the Continuum Delight laser………
Glenn
AnonymousGuestAndrew,
I can’t speak on the Delight, as I do not have one, but I am happy with my Waterlase. The company provides good service and I’ve only had 1 problem with the unit.
I can’t say the same for my Biolase Twilite diode which has thermisitor problems, foot pedal problems, and fiber problems (fiber connectors separating) all in the 1st 7 months.
The only real disappointment with the Waterlase is, like the other users, finding out thru the grapevine about the high priced warranty. I also think their training could be much better. Most of what I’ve learned has come thru the generosity of the guys who post their cases here.If I were to repurchase, I would still lean toward the Waterlase as I’m familiar with it now, but I’d definitely take a closer look( than I did previously) at the Delight
I’m sure Glenn will weigh in on the Continuum product as I know he is pleased with his.
Are you mainly interested in a hard tissue laser?
BTW, welcome to the forum!
ASISpectatorHi Glenn & Ron,
Thanks for your input. I will add that to my continued, or should I say continuum, quest on hard tissue laser.
Regards,
Andrew
Glenn van AsSpectatorAndrew: I have a bias. Ron handles his bias with professionalism and honesty. He has an integrity not found often and I admire him for how much he has learned. He knows that I have many times congratulated him for his persistent pursuit of knowledge and science. He is to be congratulated not only for the development of this fine web site but for his insistence at learning how to use his lasers to the best of his ability.
I will say that both the Continuum and Biolase are fine products and Jeff Cranska knows the Opusdent and can chip in on that one.
Again as you know I am always available if you should want to find out more about the Continuum. If you want to find out more about the Biolase , spend half a day with Randy Narayan.
Glenn
BenchwmerSpectatorASI,
I’ve been a soft tissue Nd:YAG user going on 4 years, I purchased an OpusDuo Erbium at the ADA meeting in New Orleans.
The unit has touchscreen computer controls, a swivel handpiece w/ saphire tips (1000 down to 200 microns) and a foot control that allows you to cut down power without resetting the screen.
I’m still learning uses for the Erbium, I’ve only had it for a month. But no problems with operations or controls.
The handpiece and variable foot control sold me on this brand new machine.
I trained with one of classmates from 20+years ago, he had the older Opus Erbium (He use to be a Continuum user, but switched). He’s jealous of my new machine.
He presented a case at the ALD meeting last week in Florida.
Opus is another player in the hard tissue laser market.
Jeff
SwpmnSpectatorASI:
We are approaching two years with the Biolase Waterlase Erbium. If operating properly, the unit is excellent for treating HARD oral tissues such as enamel, dentin, carious dentin and osseous structures. When we have required service, Biolase has provided rapid response and we have an outstanding service technician here in Florida.
However, there are two major issues I will present:
1) Failure of Trunk Fiber Delivery System and Laser Components
We are now using our fourth trunk fiber delivery system – the cable or hose which attaches to the laser handpiece. When the trunk fiber blows you cannot use the laser. Just beyond our one year warranty period, the flashlamp, pumping chamber and laser rod failed. We had to purchase an extended service contract for 񘴘 per year to maintain our laser.
2) Handpiece
The Waterlase utilizes a “handpiece” to deliver Erbium energy which looks just like a high-speed turbine. Problem is, the “handpiece” angle is set at 90 degrees, which is incorrect for dental treatment and unlike modern high speed handpieces. Other problem is the “handpiece” head is large and blocks your vision if you are only using an overhead operatory light. Since Erbium treatment can only be applied by direct vision(not “feel” as when we use our turbine handpieces), this is a significant factor. I have been able to reduce this problem by combining magnification loupes with a headlamp which I use to directly illuminate the treatment field.
Al
BenchwmerSpectatorMore info on the Opus Duo Erbium delivery system:
The delivery system is a hollow wave guide with an attached swivel handpiece ( 2 styles are interchangable a 90 degree or a straight tip, on these handpieces inserts are from 200-1000 micron saphire tips).
The wave guide could be 4-6 inches longer for less positioning of the unit.
I work using loupes with an attached fiber optic light source.
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ASISpectatorThanks to Jeff & Al for your input. I will be seeing an office demo on the Waterlase this coming week.
Andrew
SwpmnSpectatorGood luck Andrew!!!!!
I strongly suggest you do not purchase a system based on a single in-office demo. Thank the salesperson and then invite different companies into your office – I know for a fact there are companies that are more than happy to provide in-office demos. Look very closely at your ability to directly visualize the laser beam as you treat hard tissues at all areas and angles in the mouth.
Feel free to e-mail me if I can be of any assistance.
Al
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