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mickey franklSpectatorHi there
I am a dentist in London,UK and am interested in a Waterlase.
I found a 2nd hand one in Mississipy which is 20 months old.Is this the latest version?Is the price of � reasonable?(in the UK a new one cost � including tax minimal training by a rep and 1 yrs warenty)
I can ship it to the Uk and find someone to instul it and someone to train me,but my question is this worth it?
I find your forum very interesting and I have already lernt abit about the laser world you are all in.I also went to Marc Colonnas simposium in Londod which was very inspiring!
Thanks for any tips
Mickey Frankl
Glenn van AsSpectatorThere are two versions of the Waterlase……..the Millenium 1 and 2.
The millenium 1 was very stable but was very big and had an awkward fiber.
The millenium 2 is smaller and has several refinements. It may not be as reliable as the 1 according to some with respect to the fibers.
I would ask the dentist when he got it, which version it is, why he is selling it and maybe contact Biolase and find out what is covered under the warranty.
It is my opinion that lasers travelling long distances may end up DOA and be an expensive proposition.
I have seen stuff about second hand lasers on Dental Town and most people told the buyer to beware. The cost difference is not so great in the US as it is for you so maybe it is a serious consideration.
I wonder if you bought a new one from the states and shipped it what the overall cost would be?
glenn
RodSpectatorGlenn is correct in the basic models, however there have been some very significant changes in the new version of the Waterlase over the last year to year and a half.
I’d be VERY skeptical about getting a used one.
Rod
mark babbSpectatorIn my opinion a product can only be judged by the service and aftersales support you receive once you have the equipment. If you buy a BMW and receive bad service you will feel that you have made a bad judgement in it,s purchase, but the fact is a BMW is a great car. The same applies to purchasing high tech dental equipment. Peace of mind in service and support is invaluable and priceless. However the best way to consider this investment is ROI, the initial price is irrelevant when you consider the financial returns. If something cost you a 100,000 pounds but returned you 200,000 pounds that would be considered a good investment. 3 questions need answering when investing in high tech dental equipment, does it have a benefit to the patients, does it have a benefit to the doctor and does it give a good return on investment. With the Biolase dental Laser all 3 are a great big YES. so i would say go ahead invest in a new Waterlase, this technology is still fairly new in the UK so you have a tremendous chance to make a real point of difference. You have already made the first investment in the Mark colonna seminar, may i highly recommend a couple more the marketing books by Dr Rod Kurthy and the clinical DVD by Dr James Jesse.
Best Wishes
Mark Babb
Dental Medical Technologies
New Zealand
mickey franklSpectatorThanks for all your coments.
It is amasing how dentists from US,Canada,Newzeland and UK can discuss maters and advise one another.I have decided (with your help) to get a new Waterlase in the UK.
Thanks AlotMickey
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