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    Glenn van As
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    Olaf, very cool and very neat summary and your English is probably better than mine, and English is my first language!!

    I think this is exciting to see where we are going with the already established wavelengths and that with new technology we may be able to silgnificantly refine the effectiveness of the cutting through software improvements.

    Kudos to you.

    My only caution is that training MUST be institued as a prerequisite to purchase if you have the ability to use the 30w by mistake in CW.

    BOb Gregg has installed a training program prior to delivery of the unit and this is something that you might want to make sure is available in my opinion to reduce the risk that someone might accidentally use the 30W CW if it is possible.

    Dentists are crazy, they think if 30w pulsed very fast cuts, wow I bet 30W CW will cut faster.

    Its always , HOW FAST is this or that.

    Thats when the trouble starts right!!

    Thanks for the great explanation and welcome to this wonderful educated forum and welcome to the marketplace. I look forward to seeing some cases done with the diode. Its exciting to think that someone may come up with the ultimate box of a hard and soft tissue laser.

    Now if we could get Big Bob to package his erbium with teh periolase………..WOW that might be something.

    Glenn

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    Robert Gregg DDS
    Spectator

    Glenn,

    You speak English?rock.gif Eh?

    Erbium in the Periolase, huh? Just takes time and money.

    But the understanding that new software and electronics can be utilized to make wavelengths behave in new and interesting ways leaves the door open to the idea of reducing size and electronics to make room for an erbium head possible.

    The Olaf design suggests that the erbium will take up most of the room and the diode allows room in the device for that larger wavelength and optics etc.

    Now, what would happen if the two wavlength were blended by having them come out of the same alignment???

    Bob

    #7950 Reply

    spider24
    Spectator

    Bob & Glenn: Thanks for your kind replies. Now i see that some people understand my thoughts about diode laser technology.

    Bob, Claus Neckel was the first dentist to work with the 20 W / 10.000 Hz ORALIA unit i developed. I have his publication only in German language, and due to the fact that now i have my own company, which is a strong competitor to the ORALIA, i can´t ask him to give me his publication in english. Yes, the “super-charged diode” which Claus is working on, was the diode laser i described in my former posting.

    Your posting about the DC is correct. But 25% is the DC of the ORALIA unit. We are able to drive the elexxion claros with 2,5 µs / 47,5 µs pulsetime / relaxation time. That means a DC of 5 %. And you have to see the DC in combination with the pulsepower which leads us back to the energy dose.

    As you often wrote in this forum the periolase has a pulse power of about 1500 W. It makes sense to have a DC of 0.1 % with this high pulsepower. But remember we only have 30 W pulsepower with the diode.

    5 % x 30 W = 1,5 W mean power
    0,1 % x 1500 W = 1,5 W mean power

    With respect to the clinical trials which are not done until now, i don´t say that both will lead to the same effect to the tissue. But both work successfull.

    Some day´s ago i thought that Nd:YAG´s are old fashioned units. But i spend some time to learn more about the periolase and i saw that even well known technologies could be redesigned and improved for a better application. Respect for this invention !

    In Europe we only have oldfashioned Nd:YAG´s, why don´t you offer the periolase in Europe rock.gif I think it will find some friends here.

    Bob & Glenn: What you wrote about training, and education is 100 % my opinion and our company philosophy ! Training is more important than selling the units. Thats the reason why our export is growing slow. It helps us nothing to have a laser sold in Australia when the dentist is not able to work save and succsessful with the unit. We first have to install the infrastructure for learning & training – and that costs lots of time & money.

    In the US market we will not start until we found a partner who could manage this.

    btw: The power of all applications in the claros is strictly limited depending on the application. The mean maximum power in the programm “high performance surgery” is limited to 10 W (the strongest program). Other programms are limited to 1,0 W (for example “perioimplantitis treatment”).

    I begin to enjoy this forum !

    Olaf

    #7948 Reply

    spider24
    Spectator

    @Kenneth: We have our first customer symposium in 2 weeks. More than 100 participats registered until now. I´ll get lots of movie´s , presentations, and fotos before, during and after treatment with the elexxion claros. After the symposium i will post some of them here.

    Olaf

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    whitertth
    Spectator

    sounds interesting Olaf….I think in the 20 thousand range as Bob said u will be an instant player in the diode market…..

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