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  • #2695 Reply

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    Dear all,
    We’ve talked about different wavelengths of lasers and their applications. What about positioning a laser in the operatory ?
    I’m setting up a new operatory and wonder the best position to place my laser. I would like to know your ideal choice please.
    Lets’ forget about the layout of cabinets.
    3.1m x 3.1m room ( 11.5 ftx 11.5 ft) This size should accomodate any positioning of the laser.
    I’m right handed.
    Where should the a laser be placed in relation to the handpieces and tray please ? I have an Elexxion Delos (Er+Diode) The laser can be moved with ease like the MD, Versawave, Opus Duo ,Deka , Periolase, Fotona..
    You can also choose any dental chair and handpiece delivery system. ( Sirona,Adec, Delmont … )
    Thanks,
    Ken

    #5340 Reply

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Ken, here’s how mine are placed (I’m left handed).

    Periolase moves op to op and is placed next to Erbiums.

    Op 1
    laserop1.jpg

    Op2

    laserop2.jpg

    Hope that helps and that all is well there.

    #5355 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Hey there Ron…….nice photos. How is the scope going and do you now have 2 of them?

    I am off to Hornbrook tomorrow for the 2nd part of the course putting in veneers for a good friend of mine (did some closed flap osseous – at his request!) and will post photos when they are done.

    Glenn

    #5372 Reply

    Nick Luizzi
    Spectator

    Nice fireplace in op 1, Ron! Ergonomics in the operatories has really made ‘neat and orderly’ a challenge in our office. Cords, two lasers moving op to op is stressfull at times since I like everything I own at my finger tips. We could probably all benefit from those guys who always have things tricked-out. I would like to see some other lay outs. Like I tell my staff, ‘I’m a clean person, I’m just living in a messy person’s body’. Nick

    #5338 Reply

    Anonymous
    Guest
    QUOTE
    Quote: from Glenn van As on 1:12 am on Aug. 17, 2006
    Hey there Ron…….nice photos.  How is the scope going and do you now have 2 of them?

    Glenn

    yep, 2 now. 2nd was a demo. Use is coming along but mand. still difficult if I don’t use a mouth prop or isolite as there is just too much refocusing with each patient swallow and smile.
    BTW, nice article in DT! What’s next on the tech purchase list?

    Nick, I noticed you didn’t include what your staff’s reaction was to that statement. So what do you use as the follow up statement after their reaction to the 1st statement? Just want to get all the ammo in case I try to use that one myself ;).

    #5371 Reply

    Nick Luizzi
    Spectator

    Hi Ron:
    They laugh at my statement. But I have heard them say things like, ‘that’s why he has us two mommys (DAs) to keep him organized!’
    I am moving toward getting my two scopes ceiling mounted, I am just concerned how all the associated wireing will work from the scope to the monitors, etc. I have heard they run the wireing through 2″ elect. conduit from floor to walls. As we get more tech’ed out it really is becomeing a challenge.
    By the way, Ron, thanks for your mentoring at the last ALD meeting in moving me toward the periolase. Best thing I have done. Thanks. I wish they would get them into Canada so that Glenn Van As could join in on the periolase forum, I keep thinking he will pop up there some day. He adds so much input the the threads. Have a great day, Nick

    #5364 Reply

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    Hi Ron,
    Thanks for showing me your set up.
    We’re having the scope wall mounted in one room. In the other room, we can only use the standup version like yours.
    Ken

    #5341 Reply

    dkimmel
    Spectator

    I love that statement “I’m a clean person, I’m just living in a messy person’s body”. I’ll try that on my wife this morning….

    Ergonomics are tough we the laser. I am also trying to figure out how to redo a few ops. I have side delivery and am thinking of changing the cabinets to allow a cut out for the trunk fiber. Ther is just not enough room in the ops. Unless I go on a diet.
    I routinely use the Periolase in a rear delivery postion from the leftwith the foot pedal behind the patient chair. I have also done this with the MD bringing the trunk fiber over my right shoudler. I like using the Periolase this way but doing this with the MD does not work if I have to change settings .
    I am thinking of chaging the chair postion in my ops. I think I can place them at an angle and gain more room.
    Never gets boring…

    #5359 Reply

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    Thanks David,
    I’m still undecided with different delivery.
    With side delivery, cart type, the laser cannot be mobile enough.
    When the laser is in my 2’oclock position, chair mount delivery (whip arm hose )cannot be swung close enough to reach the handpieces easily, worse still reaching for instruments on the tray.
    Hanging hose ones are good but it feels a bit clostrophobic to patient.
    Ken

    #5365 Reply

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    Hi,
    What do you think about this arrangement? My friend’s op
    Ken
    [img]https://www.laserdentistryforum.com/attachments/upload/Copy of Copy of DSC_0021.JPG[/img]

    This is the layout of my op [img]https://www.laserdentistryforum.com/attachments/upload/my op.JPG[/img]

    (Edited by Kenneth Luk at 2:57 am on Aug. 21, 2006)

    #5344 Reply

    whitertth
    Spectator

    looks nice…and I like the clean neat look of the elexion laser…. I have mine at the foot of the patient always plugged in and wheel it forward when necessary….

    #5370 Reply

    Nick Luizzi
    Spectator

    Ken, that’s a nice clean set up. I got a flyer the other day from Gordon Christenson selling several DVD’s on different topics. One of them was regarding operatory design and layout. I think it was about &#36125 US. He does a good job researching and presenting his topics so if you want the phone or address, just ask and I’ll post it. Since my ops are such a train wreck I was thinking about buying his DVD to get some ideas. Nick

    #5358 Reply

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    Hi Ron and Nick,
    Thanks for the compliments. My friend’s op is very nice and neat.
    Mine is pretty cramped.
    A wider op in my set up will enable me to walk around the laser.
    Cart type may cause more traffic should there be another laser (periolase) or Cerec.
    I think I’ll keep my right hand side free from any fixtures. I still want to place a standup mic on the left of the chair! Can’t use ceiling nor wall mount ( not suitable location in my office )!
    Do show me your op layout and learn from your ideas.

    An air purifier will be a good addition in the op to remove smell, bacteria, virus, LASER PLUME ? See purifier ( also drying up instruments lying above it )just above the cart at the corner of the room.

    I’ll check out the DVD, probably on CRA web-site ?
    Ken

    #5348 Reply

    2thlaser
    Spectator

    Scopedt.jpg

    Here’s the image of our operatory. I can push the laser to the right, the patient can walk next to it, it’s totally out of the way. We can push it to the foot of the chair, the corner, anywhere. We place our air connection at the foot of the cabinet on the right so power/air is all out of the way. Scope is ceiling mounted, easy in play, out of play as needed, and everything is Adec rear delivery. Hope this example gives you some ideas. Just another way to do it with all the new technology. I even have room for a cerec or two 😉

    Mark

    #5345 Reply

    whitertth
    Spectator

    Mark, My roon is set up virtually the sake except for the side mount of the scope…Nice looking op…when you inviting me out to lecture with you?

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