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Glenn, My plan is to test drive all three of the scopes. Julio from Global contacted me and we are working out doing a demo. I had hoped to wrap this up before the end of the year but no big deal. I get to keep my money and still use a scope. Now if I could only get Bob to do that with the Periolase!!!
Today was a pretty good day with the scope. The more I use it the easier it gets but harder as well.It does get tougher to keep yourself in the working field. I have side delivery and I went searching for my handpiece a couple of times. Got to work on that. It still is tough trying to finish certain areas. Like the linguals of upper anteriors at the line angles. It is as if the depth of field is not enough and it appears finished but a second look with the loops and I need to touch up some. Shades are tough. The light is so bright and when you turn it down it yellows out. I have had to turn the light source off , focus on the wall and then go back and check the shades. This is an area that will take some getting used to. You would tink if Belmont can make a color correct op light Zeiss could do the same for the scope.Just to keep thing honest. At one point today I want to pitch all the stuff out of the ops. Lasers included. It is just getting smaller and smaller in the ops. The scope takes up a ton of room with a floor stand. Sometimes it just seemed simpler in the old days with just my airturbines and alloy!
David
Glenn your a very bad man.
First after several years of implanting the idea that we must, we must get a scope, you now tell me I must,I must go, to the AMED meeting!
Your a very bad man!
Already have it on my book marked off for next year! So many meetings ,So little time to see patients and work!Bob, you to are a very bad man!!
Back to the scopes. Thought I would share  a view of the demo units.
Sieler:
Global:
Zeiss
DAvid
My neck? It does feel better. At first my back was worst as I was forced to sit up straight.
Loupes? What loupes ? Who would want to wear stinking loops when they have a scope.
I tend to have a do it all and do it now mentality. I have backed off a bit. I use the scope on all procedures in one forum or another. However I do go back to my loupes at times. Usually I will start a restorative procedure with the scope and then check my finish with the loupes and then go back to the scope. For some reason I tend to leave flash with the scope. I havve an idea why and will check it out Monday.
Then again sometimes I get fustrated on lowers and just use the loupes. I still keep trying first and wait til my assistant kicks me.
Endo on a molar killed me. I did and access prep and lost my orientation. It was a tipped molar but did not appears so at first . It was not pretty.Video is way cool. Rather a shame the Sieler did not have the video setup . None of the scopes have still camera setups. Darn. The video is great for the assistant and patient. I think it is a must. The quality of the video is better on the Gobal then the Zeiss. The cost of adding video and the camera does start to bring the overall cost up a bit high. That and you have a bunch of stuff hanging of the scope. I have been thinking that there are some really nice high resoultion video cameras that you can take stills with . They are small and the cost might be close to that of adding a good camera and the marginal video camera. I usually am wrong on stuff like this so I’ll have to check it out. With my luck the good video camera cost more then the scope!!
I have noticed a hugh difference in light sources. The best of the 3 is Global. Nice bright white light where as the Zeiss is yellow. There is not a dimmer on the Global which is a mistake but I am sure can be added. The fiber optic cable looks to be the same size on the Zeiss as the Global so I can try a different light source on the Zeiss. The Seiler has a much larger fiber optic bundle.
Zeiss does have a more refined product. I do like when you push the unit away everything shuts off. The MORA interface is a hugh plus. It puts the Zeiss up a notch. The Golbal rep did say they will have such an attachment in 2005. I also think the Carr extender is a nice feature for the Global.
It has been fun having 3 ops with scopes. The one draw back is now just having one scope. I can tell already that the scope will be like my loupes . I won’t beable to do restorative without them.
QUOTEQuote: from Glenn van As on 2:44 am on Dec. 12, 2004
Neat DAvid…….what are your thoughts so far on the scopes.Are you able to use them for many things right now.  Do you find it much of an improvement over what  you are using in loupes.
DOes your neck feel better, worse. Â
How about the video (noticed it on the global scope) what are  your thoughts on that.
Great stuff.
Glenn
Well, today was my day to join the scope club. Seiler Revelation from Stefan Lugar. Tried the Global last year and couldn’t do anything with it. Of course I later found out the salesman put the binocs on upside down, not the kind of local support I wanted
Glenn, I can’t tell you how much your video helped. On the way home tonight, I was still trying to figure out why some mandibular bicuspids were upside down when I worked on them and then I remembered ‘chair position’. I had been working on 13 and moved to the buccal of 20 and 21- moved the scope and forgot to move the chair. Will know for next time. BTW, do you have a ‘left handed ‘version of that DVD so I don’t have to interpet it? 😉
Assistants worked off the video and said they could see their positioning, but not the tooth I was working on. Should they see that also?
Video in the ceiling- is this positioned 12 o’clock to the chair? Otherwise how does the patient see around the scope?
Anyway, did fills on 6,11,13,20,21,14,2 this afternoon and all I can say is wow! Sat up straight and saw things I know I wouldn’t have seen before. Its true- you can’t see what you can’t see.
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