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    Swpmn
    Spectator

    Lares PowerLase AT

    Introduction

    Recently I had the opportunity to evaluate the Lares PowerLase AT(All-Tissue) Er:YAG/Nd:YAG unit. My evaluation was done in a booth at a dental convention and is not meant to be comprehensive or offer advice to prospective users. The review may contain factual and scientific errors and for the most part relates to the Er:YAG. Where I have added subjective comments, please either ignore them or take them with a grain of salt.

    Base Unit

    a)Unit is medium sized. Larger than HOYA or current Biolase units but much smaller than original Biolase erbium. Appears it would fit just fine in a standard sized operatory.

    b)Electrical connection is 220-230V. The laser is self contained without need for air or water connections. Has an onboard air compressor. Distilled water bottle supply appeared adequate for normal use.

    c)Keyboard appeared user friendly. LCD type display with easy to use selections for wavelength, energy setting, pulse duration, pulse rate and air/water.

    Delivery System

    a) Er:YAG
    Articulated arm with several mirrors. Arm is surprisingly flexible and of adequate length. Appeared to have a bit of pull back when compared to the optical fiber delivery systems I have used. Each elbow of the arm has a removable plate on the back in case the mirror needs to be changed. Air/water lines are individual and run external to the arm.

    b) Nd:YAG
    Optical fiber emanating from right front of the base unit. Fiber is stored on a non rotating wheel on right side of unit similar to how one might store a garden hose.

    Handpiece(Er:YAG)

    a) Contact handpiece
    Right angle handpiece similar to original Biolase Waterlase. Removable mirror access on top of 90 degree distal bend on handpiece. Air water appears to spray straight down tip similar to original Waterlase. Removable quartz or perhaps sapphire tips of 800-1000 micron diameter with metal proximal base. Visible red 650nm aiming beam emanates from distal end of tip. These tips are used in contact, they cost &#3680 apiece and are recommended for 40 uses.

    b)Non-Contact Handpiece
    A glass like window on the distal underside of the handpiece delivers the Er:YAG wavelength. Appears the air water spray and visible red aiming beam emanate just proximal to the window. The red aiming beam intersects with the air water spray at a very specific point a few millimeters from the window. This is the focal point for the Er:YAG wavelength. It is important to periodically wipe away ablation products and waterspray from the window.

    Operating Parameters

    a) Average Power Maximum
    Erbium component has a maximum setting of 1000mJoules at 20Hz so this is how the 20Watt setting is calculated. There are energy setting limitations for the various Hz rate selections. Nd:YAG is 15W and was told this is related to 230V electrical connection. When I expressed safety concerns, was told that the user would be instructed never to use the Nd:YAG above 4.0Watts.

    b) Pulse Rate
    Repetition rate or pulse per second on the erbium is 2-50Hz. Appeared that the Pulse Rate is adjustable in single increments.

    c) Pulse Duration
    I specifically asked what is the convention for measuring Pulse Duration – Full Width Full Maximum(FWFM) or Full Width Half Maximum(FWHM). Response was Full Width Half Maximum. The pulse wave is reported to be a digital with a square waveform.
    Theory behind the short 50 microsecond Er:YAG pulse duration appears to be that the ablation front stays ahead of the thermal front. In other words the laser is cutting hard tissue below the thermal relaxation constant. That combined with a report that there is less ablation product interference is supposed to make the 50usec Er:YAG cut faster with less discomfort to the patient.
    When I asked what would be the clinical use of a 1000usec pulse duration with an erbium, was told would be for situations where one desired a low peak power. The company does not appear to promote soft tissue coagulation effects with a long pulse duration erbium wavelength. They were encouraging most or all soft tissue treatments to be provided with the Nd:YAG.

    Subjective In Vitro Ablation Impressions

    In a lab bench type situation at a dental convention booth, the Er:YAG in both contact and non-contact modes appeared to cut extracted human posterior teeth and bovine bone faster than anything I have ever utilized. The non contact window handpiece was much easier to focus than I had anticipated. Focal point of 2940nm wavelength is precisely at intersection of aiming beam with the waterspray.

    Training

    Lares provides Compact Disc based didactic and clinical training. Technician sets up laser and instructs doctor on physical operation. Over the shoulder clinical instruction by a Lares clinician can be provided and is recommended. The company does claim they are the only laser manufacturer recognized by the Academy of Laser Dentistry as a laser training course provider. Now I have to take down my official ALD issued Standard Proficiency diplomas: Two in Er:YAG, one in 800nm Diode and one in 10,600nm Carbon Dioxide(please ignore the immediately previous sarcastic comment).

    Warranty

    Unit has standard one year warranty. Asked about extended warranty or service contract. Was told no info available at this time but that info would be available prior to expiration of one year initial warranty.

    Investment

    Powerlase AT(All Tissue Er:YAG/Nd:YAG) &#3672,500 US.

    Powerlase HT(Hard Tissue Er:YAG) &#3662,500 US.

    #7106 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Allen that is a wonderful report and very interesting. It seems that some of my concerns were not warranted and that the product as anticipated has some nice advantages.

    Did it seem faster than the handpiece as mentioned in their ads.

    Your very thorough post is excellent and you know all the right questions to ask for sure. It is a great use to have this board where educated clinicians focussed on learning more than just their own laser systems exist.

    Thanks Allen I really enjoyed your post.

    Glenn

    #7122 Reply

    Swpmn
    Spectator
    QUOTE
    Did it seem faster than the handpiece as mentioned in their ads.

    Glenn

    Couldn’t say it was faster than a highspeed handpiece but it definitely approaches the ablation speed of a high speed. Again this is subjective, but playing with the two different handpieces it almost seemed like the non contact window handpiece cut faster than the contact tips.

    #7105 Reply

    joegarciaar
    Spectator

    I have a fotona since 2000 (Er Yag I). He´s excellent, but…
    The articulated arm are not for all the people. To work in the distal sector it´s necessary to be ¨bien macho¨.
    I use my new Waterlase MD from last monday. The delivery system are the difference. My Fotona is also a good laser

    #7110 Reply

    Jeff Steele
    Spectator

    I just entered this forum and find the information on the Lares Powerlase AT interesting but very dated.  Does anyone have new comments to update this info?  I am looking seriously at this laser but I want to hear more from those who have experienced it.

    Thanks

    #7101 Reply

    Anonymous
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    QUOTE
    Quote: from Jeff Steele on 7:07 pm on Oct. 19, 2006
    I just entered this forum and find the information on the Lares Powerlase AT interesting but very dated.  Does anyone have new comments to update this info?  I am looking seriously at this laser but I want to hear more from those who have experienced it.

    Thanks

    Jeff, contact-

    Dr Matthew McEachran
    Hillsdale MI 49242
    Phone: 517-437-0055

    He’s the next county over from me uses that laser and is starting to do some training for Lares.

    #7107 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Jeff: I have noticed a lack of replies on the Powerlase AT in posts here and at Dentaltown.

    Is that a sign?

    I would definitely ask for references and a full list of them.

    I myself would look at other lasers and compare including biolase and Hoyas Versawave which I own.

    You decide then which brand has the most appeal for your practice.

    Make sure you consider number of existing users, warrantee after the initial year, reliability, training etc.

    Good luck in your search.

    Glenn

    #7123 Reply

    biglabmaggie
    Spectator

    My partner and I had a demo of the Powerlase AT in our office last week. We cut extracted teeth and learned about the benefits of having both an Erbium and Nd:YAG on the same unit.

    We have been going back and forth on whether or not to purchase any laser. We looked at the Waterlase MD and are still considering simply buying a diode for soft tissue only.

    Our pros for the Powerlase are it’s versatility with both types of tissue and essentially have the best types of lasers for both types of tissue on one unit.

    The erbium is extremely powerful. It cut the extracted teeth very similarly to a HS handpiece. Could we crank the power that high on an pt. that is not anesthetized? I don’t know.

    They also offer with the purchase an 8 hour DVD training as well as one full day in the office with a trained dentist. I have come to realize (after hours on DT and LDF reading posts – this is my first post) that to be successful with lasers training is critical and this would not suffice long term but would get us started.

    Another huge positive is after the training period, there is a 60 trial period where if you don’t like the laser, you get your money back. No other laser company offers this trial period which is simply unbelievable. What else (in life) can you purchase that costs this much without even trying the equipment before you purchase?

    The negatives to the laser are its size and the fact that it doesn’t seemed to be used by many dentists. It requires 220 power which means some wiring costs unless you want to carry the transformer around (no thanks).

    The biggest negative for me at this point is the limited number of users. There simply isn’t much feedback on the machine like other lasers. I have not been able to call anyone from the 3 pages of names the rep left with me yet.

    Anyone who has thoughts (especially someone with a Powerlase) I would greatly appreciate some Powerlase thoughts. This forum is incredible and the people giving advice and tips are so helpful. Many thanks for simply being here to allow me to read and begin educating myself. I should send in for 8 hours CE….JK

    Thank you once again.

    Alan

    #7116 Reply

    Sharaz
    Spectator

    I just wanted to introduce myself and my company as the Fotona dental laser dealer for the U.K. market, and would be happy to answer any questions you may have on the Powerlase unit. The unit is called the Fidelis Plus in Europe, and is one of the largest selling laser in the European market.

    I have contacted Fotona direct with regards to entering this forum to answer your questions direct so as to get a manufacturers perspective on your questions.

    Hope we can be of help rock.gif

    #7111 Reply

    Kenneth Luk
    Spectator

    Hi,
    It seems the 50us is a good pd. What is the protocal ?
    At 2 to 4 Hz?
    With what size fiber tip ?
    Is this setting efficient in cutting enamel as well as dentine ?
    Thanks,
    Ken

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