That’s disappointing. Perhaps not many saw these posts(I think most hang out in the ST, HT and Erbium sections) or perhaps just not much interest.

Any chance we could have Ron e-mail all the members of the forum that currently list lasers in use and ask for a response?

Al

Cool!!!!!!!

Al

status report as of 09/18/03 (no changes from 06/24/03)

number of failure reports: 4
number of no-failure reports: 1
number of models: 3
number of hard tissue lasers:2
number of soft tissue lasers: 2

It will take much more data to generate meaningful charts.  I will periodically edit this post to keep interested people up to date.

So far all owners of failed hard tissue lasers feel that their failures are a direct result of very inadequate training(aka self training).  

If the manufacturers are monitoring this thread: DOCS NEED ACCESS TO IMMEDIATE TRAINING AT OR BEFORE DELIVERY.  

(Edited by dilbert at 8:10 pm on Sep. 18, 2003)

Too bad there wasn’t more input on the project. We appreciate your efforts.

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Error 98 on the DELight means the laser exceeded a certain time limit to reach an energy level selected with the keypad. Usually only takes a few seconds and is dependent upon the amount of change requested. For example, changing the energy setting incrementally is an easy process for the laser. However, making a rapid change from a high enamel setting to a low soft tissue setting may occasionally exceed the time limit and result in Error 98. Usually without consequence.

Error 24 indicates a problem with the energy feedback loop that controls the laser output. May occur in conjunction with Error 98 but indicates a more serious problem within the laser bench assembly. The bench assembly may need to be replaced and this error can only be addressed by a technician.

Al

In retrospect from my personal experience as a “Monday Morning Laser Quarterback” I vote for the concept promoted by Gregg and McCarthy – “No Training, No Delivery”. We should require the doctor to attend a two to three day course teaching laser physics, safety, tissue interactions, hands-on training by ALD certified instructors and then pass a written and practical test on use of the chosen dental laser. The course should follow the Curriculum Guidelines as defined by the ALD and result in the doctor obtaining a Standard Proficiency Certification prior to treating the first patient. Proper training will result in fewer mechanical failures with our lasers and should be required by the profession and laser manufacturers. The best interests of our patients should preclude any financial concerns.

Al

Hi Al,
I thought everyone investing into lasers would have to be satisfied with the function, properties and safety first before purchasing.
I hope that ALD and Laser companies can run courses in Asia e.g. Japan so that dentists around can make more courses with shorter trips.

Ken