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    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Well I had this case today and I thought I would show something that I did today without anesthetic.  Could I have done it with a scalpel…….sure, but probably not without anesethetic and the patient really was happy.

    Could I have stuck a whole bunch of cotton wadding in there……oh sure.

    Could I have spent alot of time and made a gorgeous temporary to create huge emergence profile.

    YUP

    What I did was use the erbium laser (20Hz, 45 mj, no water, but air) on the tissue around the implant abutment in order to seat the crown without pain or blanching.  I know, I know that there would be tons of other ways…..faster ways, brighter ways, less invasive ways, methods backed up by double blind, clinically randomized 30 year studies.

    I know one thing…….the patient was happy that the needle, blade and sutures stayed in the drawer and that the EMLA and the Er:YAG laser was all I needed to make the crown seat.  It wouldnt seat initially and it was causing her pain when I tried.  It wasnt the contacts but the emergence profile of the laser.

    I couldn not have used electrosurge with or without aneesthetic.  I could not have used a diode without anesthetic.  

    I also know this never happens in anyone elses practice, but its another use for lasers in my practice and something that most periodontists are spending ALL of their time doing now………IMPLANTS.

    Here it is……for better or worse.

    Reason enough to spend 60000 on a laser……nah……

    Just something for those interested in lasers, who visit this laser board to astonishingly learn something about how lasers can be used in private practice to see.

    Hope you folks like it……..all the best

    Glenn

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    (Edited by Glenn van As at 6:11 am on Nov. 27, 2004)

    #7382 Reply

    2thlaser
    Spectator

    Nice use of the chisel Glenn.
    I have done many of these, mostly with our Zed tips. Gentle energy, nice control around the implant. Easy stuff, and of course the healing is incredible. I have never had to use a topical using the zed tips with low power levels. I can see the need using a saphire chisels energy pattern. Nice, thanks for sharing!
    Mark

    #7384 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Hi Mark: What does the foot print of the Zed tip look like.

    I just painted the topical on to make sure it was ok for the patient. I didnt figure that she would feel to much. Kinda made for some nice contrast on the photo!!

    I have done this before wiith smaller 400 micron tips but the tissue is much more ragged. I like the chisel tips for alot of things because of the wide footprint. It is a very useful tip because of its broad surface.

    Take care and thanks for commenting.

    Glenn

    #7380 Reply

    Anonymous
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    Hi Guys, don’t know if you’ve tried this before or not but for those who haven’t, take some of your EMLA or other anesthetic cream( I use a combo of benzocaine,tetracaine, and lidocaine in phenylepherine) and keep some loaded in a Ultradent syringe. We use the same type you’d use for Astringident with the metal tips that are used for Ultradent’s Permaflow composite. Great way to deliver that topical into a sulcus or around an implant in a way that keeps it from going all over.

    #7385 Reply

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Good idea Ron…….I didnt do it this time but its a good idea……

    Glenn

    #7386 Reply

    Swpmn
    Spectator

    Nice esthetics on the crown.

    #7383 Reply

    Dan Melker
    Spectator

    Glenn,
    Your threads have been so Biologically sound! It is really great to see your microscope show such sound trt. of different areas.
    Do you ever have time to practice?
    Danny

    #7381 Reply

    whitertth
    Spectator

    Glenn,
    Nice stuff as usual…I like the chisel for these as well because of the larger footprint…Good going!!

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