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    dmd92east
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    How do you detemine if you have the right water and air settings. By the way, I really like this laser. Positive feedback from patients and I use it on just about everything. From cavities to soft tissue to even cleaning off CEREC preps. Pretty cool.

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    Anonymous
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    Dave, somewhere on LDF is a thread about this. My recollection is 13-15ml/minute for water although I try to get both air and water low enough where I’m not likely to drown anyone and also not get any ‘brownout’ during prep. If I find the thread I’ll post a link.

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    Anonymous
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    Dave, I just tested my versawave and it is between 2-3ml/minute. It was my Waterlase that puts out between 13-15ml/minute. Maybe Glenn can get us the  ‘official rate’ 😉

    #7319 Reply

    dmd92east
    Spectator

    Thanks, I know the manual whicj I don’t have in front of me right now states I believe 10-15ml’s per minute but don’t quote me. So I sat there with a graduated cylinder and did this. Pretty, pretty, pretty boring and no that easy to get right at it. Then of course my water wasn’t coming out at all so I played with the nob and screwed it all up. Turned out my water bottle needed a little more elbow grease tightening. Well anyway what about air? I see the MD has all this computerized. Is it real important? And are these easily calibrated? How do you check air rate? Soory for these stupid questions but also trying to bring some life back into this forum. I’m a wee bit concerned that it is so dead in here.

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    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Dave: My suggestion is to get to either Nasth or LVI for training. That will help. Try to get around 14-18ml per min. If you get too much the patient starts drowning and the cutting is slowed and too little and pain and charring starts to happen.

    Hope that helps

    Glenn van As

    #7321 Reply

    Nick Luizzi
    Spectator

    Dave:
    If I may add to Glenn’s post. Vacuum size and placement becomes an issue. If the vacuum tip is too close to the tooth, the drawn on fluid flow becomes an issue as does charring and discomfort. Too far away and it becomes a problem with diminished effect from the erbium and plume. This is where the art comes in, and visual learning based on effect become important. You must enter into each proceedure with the idea that you observe the variables. The book will take you only so far. Then throw in the human factors associated with the patient and the fun really starts. I also strongly agree with Glenn, get to LVI or other learning center where you can surround yourself with guys who have tons of experience and can guide your learning curve. It’s worth every penny.
    Hope that helps. Nick Luizzi

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