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AnonymousSpectatorI think it would be best if you private message dilbert w/ the info.
SwpmnSpectatorYes, thank you very much for the discussion and the website link.
Al
AnonymousSpectatorKelly,
Do you know how old the lesion was before Tx? and have you found that it makes any difference in outcome, based on how old the lesion is before Tx?
Thanks,
AnonymousInactiveHere is the web site:
http://www.wamkey.com/k/gb/accueilgb.htm
I haven’t used it either but it sound great.
AnonymousSpectatorHi all,
Had the opportunity this past weekend for 3 days of laser training w/ Bob & Del of Millenium Dental and wanted to give a little feedback.
After having experienced what some companies consider training with the diode and erbium, I can safely say no one does training like these guys. From the classroom presentation, to demonstration, to actual hands on , it was a great experience. There isn’t a better way to learn, than having an experienced laser user demonstrate and look over your shoulder as you do the same procedure. Bob and Del were both very generous with their time and it was very much appreciated.
Their staff is also to be commended for the fine job they did in arranging everything from paper work, to food and transportation.
I also got to meet some other great dentists and their staffs, which helped reinforce my theory that laser dentists are a different breed- no competition, just there to help each other and advance the use of lasers in dentistry.
Finally, some had asked me where to get the ESOLA journal (which is pretty nice if you haven’t seen it), here is the link-
SwpmnSpectatorPat:
Twice in the month of May? That ain’t good. I believe there is a serious problem that needs to be corrected.
Not only is it a bad practice builder and also embarrassing to have to reschedule patients, but to possibly then have to reschedule them a second time really stinks! Fortunately I have never had that happen.
Best of luck my friend, like an infamous President from Hope once said, “Ah feel yore pain”. The big difference is, when I say it, I really mean it!!!!
Al
SwpmnSpectatorTuvalu – fascinating!!!!! I learn at least one thing on the LDF every day.
Al
SwpmnSpectatorJeff:
Nice case and thanks for sharing. I’m sure your patient is very pleased.
Please explain the difference in repitition rate setting of 50 Hz for the frenum excision vs. 20 Hz for the gingivectomy.
Also, remind me what is the range of repitition rate on the Periolase? I have the spec sheet somewhere but not in front of me.
Al
Happy2thSpectator<a href="http://www.wamkey.com/k/gb/accueilgb.htm
I” target=”_blank”>http://www.wamkey.com/k/gb/accueilgb.htm
I have used the WAMKey twice now, one for a gold crown, and one for a porcelain crown. Both times I’ve been successful (100% success rate so far!!), and both times it’s taken less than a minute.
I also have a Metalift kit. I am 3 for 10 with the Metalift, and the fastet I’ve been able to remove a crown with the Metalift is 5 minutes (and I’ve wasted up to half an hour on some crowns trying to remove them with the Metalift, finally having to resort to sectioning the crown.) Although I am personal friends with Dr. Robert Westerman, the inventor of the Metalift, I’ve had much better success with the WAMKey. (Please don’t tell Dr. Westerman I said that.)
(Edited by Happy2th at 11:34 pm on May 27, 2003)
SwpmnSpectatorWell that sure is an interesting comment from someone who’s been doing this a long time!!!!!
I pretty much left the same camp about 18 months ago but I’m still studying, listening, reading and thinking!
Al
SwpmnSpectatorJetsfan:
Thanks for the tip.
How far down the root were you able to remove cement or trough around the post using the G6 tip in the Waterlase? Did you happen to hit the gold post with the laser beam and if so did you see any white sparking or flashback?
Al
ASISpectatorHi All,
Interesting and clever design in crown and bridge removal. If needed, removed crowns and bridges can then be properly repaired by dental lab while area of treatment is provisionalized.
This is such a great forum in sharing info. Keep up the good work everyone!
Andrew
Glenn van AsSpectatorHi folks…….gotta sleep but here is a case finished today.
The preps were done (4 veneers ) due to mottling. Patient had some attrition on the incisal edge leading to a shorter tooth by a mm, and in addition had problems with gingival height of contours so I did some erbium recontouring with the erbium after probing on the right side and may have taken a half mm more than I wanted ( I find it harder to control at times the erbium for soft tissue) and on the left side I did the ARgon (soft tissue laser)
Erbium was around 80 mj and 30 Hz (with anesthetic and no water) and the Argon at 0.2 secs duration and pulse of .7-.8 watts 0.2 secs off.
The insert was done today and the patient was pleased with shape and color. I was pleased with fit and length was longer, due to me trimming tissue and perhaps adding 0.5 mm on incisal (patient having NG made as we speak to control grinding)
Hope it is interesting…….todays insert was 2 weeks after preps……
gotta sleep…..cya later.
Glenn
jetsfanSpectatorSWPMN,
I went about 3-4mm down the root alongside the post.Roughly half way down the lenght of the post. This seemed to give me some “wiggle room” for the post.
I can’t believe that I didn’t touch the gold post but I did not see any sparking which really surprised me. I didn’t think my hand could be that steady.
dilbertSpectatorThanks for clarifying Ron. I am still at the “what info to gather?” stage and have not given much thought to the reporting and disseminating process yet. The goal is to provide honest feedback to manufacturers without the fear of retaliation. At the same time, we won’t want this to become a forum for bashing or cheerleading companies although all comments will be archived for the manufacturers to review if they so choose.
The first step here is to gather ideas from laser users and potential users about what info they want.
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