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  • in reply to: Re: Dentin Etch? #13497

    JasonL
    Spectator

    Thanks for the quick reply!

    This laser phenomenon is amazing – but also a lot to wrap my small brain around.

    If only I was as smart as Dino….

    in reply to: Re: Dentin Etch? #13500

    Jason,

    If you want to survive you have to stop reading so much.

    Just do what Bob or Dino or I say. That’s all you need!

    in reply to: General Erbium Discussion #2836

    dmd92east
    Spectator

    Anybody in here familiar with the shake up of upper level management at Hoya. What are the implications for existing users? What’s the future of Hoya’ erbium lasers? I thought Biolase was the one in trouble?

    in reply to: Hoya Management?? #6491

    Nick Luizzi
    Spectator

    Start buying laser tips and stashing ’em just in case.
    Nick

    in reply to: Off Topic #3139

    Anonymous
    Spectator

    Hi all,

    In light of the changes at Hoya, I thought it might be interesting to start a discussion of where you all see laser dentistry going as far as Erbiums are concerned and how greatly you feel they will or will not saturate the dental market place.

    Do you feel they’ll fill a niche?

    What % of practices may become involved if more than niche?

    Or do you believe they will become standard of practice ?

    Erbiums only.

    Here’s my take-
    Niche- due to cost, training, and ability to do many of the same things with a handpiece faster.

    What say you?

    in reply to: Future of Erbium Dentistry #8934

    Nick Luizzi
    Spectator

    I feel the use of the erbium laser in everyday practice will grow. First, it is starting to become consumer(patient) driven by means of the advertiseing efforts of both laser companies and dentists. The public thinks that we as dentists all pretty much do the same things. When they start asking why their dentist does not use a laser like it says in the ads, the market will be driven forward. I feel that lasik eye surgery have done alot to bring public awareness to lasers.There is a high consumer satisfaction with Lasik, why not the erbium when properly used? Also, the terms regarding lasers are starting to infiltrate the public market via advertising for hair removal, etc.
    However, I am very disappointed in the way that some of the laser companies are marketing their equipment to the dental profession. Especially with regard to the erbium laser and use of local anasthetics. I hear marketing claims that put sales on the same level as used car dealers. Some of the companies are makeing claims that they know are less than valid in this point. So dentists who have not done their homework with regard to hard tissue proceedures performed with the erbium and no anastethic are getting hoodwinked into buying an erbium laser.
    The the dentist doesn’t get what he thought he bought into, puts the laser in the cornor and his disappointing results will hurt laser dentistry. Ron, we have been pretty good at not stepping on the toes of companies who sell unrealistic claims to dentists, by not using their names. But they really need to be held responsible for declines in erbium sales. You know that the key to successful laser practices is education, mentorship, and places like this forum.
    The erbium laser is a fantastic laser when you are realistic about how to use it. I use mine almost everyday for three years now and I’m still learning. Dentists are always looking for a panacea, that is why we are easy to sell to.
    I think the future for the erbium is bright, it may make some corrections along the way. I just feel that education is the key.
    Nick Luizzi

    in reply to: Low Level Lasers in Dentistry #8976

    JerryD
    Spectator

    Nick,

    I recently became certified in Reiki, and I believe there is a strong relationship between laser energy and chi. Everything I’ve read and learned over the past year seems connected. My interest in Reiki was amplified by everything I’ve learned and experienced since buying and using the Periolase. I don’t know exactly what it is about the infrared part of the spectrum, but I believe that some of the healing properties are attributable to alterations in the body’s energy flow, or chi.

    They say that people who can see energy, or “ghosts” have an enhanced ability to detect infrared visually. I don’t know if this is a physical property of the eyeball, or a “sixth sense,” but it sure it interesting.

    Jeff

    in reply to: Hoya Management?? #6488

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Ok folks here is the scoop….I was in on the conference call on Tuesday so this is from the horses mouth.

    Hoya for a variety of reasons decided to relieve upper management of their positions and try a fresh new approach and in doing so Tom Haney, Rich Frankenburg and Jack Miller were let go. They were the VP of dental division (Tom ) and the eastern (Rich) and Western (Jack) regional managers.

    I know that Biolase has had some turnovers at the top and I believe that Hoya just wanted to go in a new direction.

    I for one will miss Tom especially as he was a good man and a great friend. He worked hard for Continuum for 23 years. Now I do know that he is getting close to working with another dental laser company and that would be great as good things do happen to good people.

    I have talked to Tom 3 times since this happened and he is pretty upbeat these days and wants to stay in the dental market. I also talked to Rich and he is a great guy as well and wants to stay in dentistry as well.

    I havent talked to Jack. I wish all three of them luck and each worked hard for Hoya and was a good person and alot of fun.

    In talking to Hoya they are not in any worry of not staying in the dental market. I listened to the state of the union speech from CEO Tim Gelhman and not at one point during the conference call did he sound like he was going to pack in the dental division. Its amazing to hear how rumours get started!

    In fact look for a new announcement from the company at the Chicago Midwinter meeting and things are clicking along pretty good.

    There is a renewed commitment to furthering education opportunities for Hoya users and also all courses are going on with new ones to be developed.

    With new people, new ideas, new courses and even new announcements (not saying more) there is every reason to be optimistic about the company and its commitment to dentistry.

    Keep an eye out for them, they will be coming to your door directly this year so keep an eye out for their information and do drop by the booth when at the Midwinter, Yankee or various meetings.

    Hope that helps and I GET ZERO kickbacks for this endoresement but someone else emailed me to ask what was going on and since I was a little in the know I thought I would put this email up.

    Bob Desoto is in charge of international, and Rick MacDonald, and Nick Klassen have also been promoted to fill voids left by the management changes.

    Hope that helps…..no need to stalk up on tips !
    Glenn

    in reply to: Future of Erbium Dentistry #8933

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Nick your eloquent post is bang on. We need to make sure that we present a balanced and professional approach to laser dentistry. I did a fair amount of restorative laser dentistry this week but by far the most I get out of the laser is for soft tissue and bone.

    I had two patients come in asking about hemangioma removal, and lots of soft tissue stuff. That for me is where the laser is better than anything I had before.

    Ron did create a wonderful site here that really is trying to educate docs as to the benefits of laser dentistry and not the hype.

    I hope that in the coming years speakers will just tell it as it is , instead of not being truthful with the dentists expectations.

    Glenn

    in reply to: Hoya Management?? #6486

    dmd92east
    Spectator

    I met Rick MacDonald at Yankee yesterday. Had no idea who I was talking to has far as Management went until I looked into my bag at home and read his business card. He was extremely nice and receptive to my concerns and genuinely intereseted in the success of their dental product. On our final handshake I felt something plastic and rectangular in his hand. A 30 degree 600 micron tip. That was a neat trick and a sincere gesture. Even more reason why I’m glad I went with Hoya.

    in reply to: Hoya Management?? #6487

    dmd92east
    Spectator

    Oh and since I am a purchaser of a used Versawave has Rick knew as well and after some initial controversy concerning the purchasing of an extended warranty, Hoya has gladly extended a hand and allowed me to purchase one after an initial extensive checkover by one of their techs. Further proof that they intend to stand by their product new or used. Good idea.

    in reply to: New Er LAser #6098

    dmd92east
    Spectator

    I tested one out at Yankee. Pretty neat. the actual laser is the black part on the handpiece. So it’s a little heavy handed.
    Cool unit though. Even better it’s made in Israel. How come their neighboring countries never come up with anything of any human value?

    in reply to: Hoya Management?? #6492

    Nick Luizzi
    Spectator

    Told ya you would be happy going with Hoya.Nick

    in reply to: Hoya Management?? #6489

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Hi there: Rick is a good guy. I have known him for a long time and he is a straight shooter and concerned for the customer. I am glad that you had a good meeting with him. Hoya does try to look after their customers and their product is a darn good one.

    Take care and all the best, and I hope that he allayed your concerns re the recent managment changes.

    All the best

    Glenn

    in reply to: Future of Erbium Dentistry #8931

    whitertth
    Spectator

    Lasers in everyday practice will go as far as CONSUMER dorected marketing by companies will go. How often do you get asked for Lumineers these days? 2 years ago did anyone ask for Lumineers. Den Mat has done a great job of TV commercials lately and has created a buzz. If we really want to get Lasers jumping all we need to do from this forum is collectively build a site( Erbium laser company does not matter…and collectively start national marketing directing patients to a laser dentist near them>>>believe me an ad a month in People, or Cosmo or Vogue and you will start to see a buzz…it takes bucks and time and for some reason laser companies havent seen that yet…

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