Mickey I dont think that this laser the Clarion is available in North America so I guess it just is important to know where the person is from.

I have ZERO experience with the superpulsed diode but will say that pulse duration for perio is one thing, wavelength (the NdYAG is far better absorbed in black pigmented bacteria and far deeper penetrating than diodes period regardless of pulse duration) is another.

In addition it would seem that in this case the person is asking for a diode to be used not primarily in periodontal pockets (I think that the connective attachment for diodes is Long Junctional epithelium but of course am very amenable to all the published material in Europe on this wavelength that of course I may not have access too).

For cosmetic purposes a lightweight , low cost diode for tissue management is the way to go.

PS could you tell me the cost for the Clarion Elexxion…….

The Ivoclar is around 11,750-12,750 USD and the DIodent 2 is roughly the same cost.

That is the attraction of diodes for those not looking for periodontal treatment in that they are inexpensive and a good alternative to electrosurge where tissue response (ie recession) can be so variable due to high collateral thermal damage that impressions on the same day as tissue managment is not a wise idea.

Hope that helps clarify things and if indeed this person is in UK or Europe then I would consider the diode you mentioned which I have zero experience or knowledge with but do not see it much being sold (is it even available) here in North America.

All the best and have a great weekend.

Glenn

Hi David…for some the lack of sterilizability of the fiber is a big issue. For us here in Canada it isnt as much a problem.

I like the size , simplicity and easy handling of the Odyssey 2.4G (new model) and the footpedal is as advertised. I use mine all the day. Today I did a huge frenectomy and decided to use the erbium…..hit a big blood vessel and pressure + Astringident would not stop the oozing.

Finally the diode did the trick. 7 year old girl a little squirmy but I got it done!!

Take care and I want to say that after a long lull on LDF, this board is again becoming quite active. There are lots of new members and lots of new questions…….its a testament to Ron Schalters great website where the issue is wavelengths……..not brands.

Now does this mean it is time to start posting some cases again……..gotta run……its my anniversary.

Off to dinner without a computer!

Grin

Glenn

Yes, it is end-firing, but th scatter in the tissue is circumferential around the tip, but making the intensity much less of course (a good thing in this instance).

No need or concern to remove the protein B/U. Just not hot enough.

Thanks Ron.

Bob

The elexxion claros is not available on the US-market until now. After finishing some studies and the FDA approval it will perhaps be available in 2006.

You should not compare this unit to a classical diode. It´s a diode with cutting performance nearly like a Co2 but excellent hemostasis.

Olaf

Ron,
The plastic bottle alone would be over &#36200,
I’ll go &#36549 plus shipping, handling and tax.
Repair in my area for my hard tissue laser is &#36275 an hour, minimun 4 hours, plus &#36300 travel time. That would be &#361400 to install that toggle, plus parts.
That’s why you’re the rich dentist, Ron, you need to keep the economy going.
I ordered a case of plastic bottles for my EMS piezzon unit. Ten plastic bottles were over &#361000.
Time to raise your laser fees 10% and keep moving ahead.
Jeff