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  • in reply to: 2nd hand Waterlase #11389

    mark babb
    Spectator

    In my opinion a product can only be judged by the service and aftersales support you receive once you have the equipment. If you buy a BMW and receive bad service you will feel that you have made a bad judgement in it,s purchase, but the fact is a BMW is a great car. The same applies to purchasing high tech dental equipment. Peace of mind in service and support is invaluable and priceless. However the best way to consider this investment is ROI, the initial price is irrelevant when you consider the financial returns. If something cost you a 100,000 pounds but returned you 200,000 pounds that would be considered a good investment. 3 questions need answering when investing in high tech dental equipment, does it have a benefit to the patients, does it have a benefit to the doctor and does it give a good return on investment. With the Biolase dental Laser all 3 are a great big YES. so i would say go ahead invest in a new Waterlase, this technology is still fairly new in the UK so you have a tremendous chance to make a real point of difference. You have already made the first investment in the Mark colonna seminar, may i highly recommend a couple more the marketing books by Dr Rod Kurthy and the clinical DVD by Dr James Jesse.  
    Best Wishes
    Mark Babb
    Dental Medical Technologies
    New Zealand  

    in reply to: Laser incision and drainage #10268

    Robert Gregg DDS
    Spectator

    Glenn,

    Had a lower bicuspid that had huge facial swelling, and parasthesia of the lip. Did an open and drain, and gave Augmentin (500mg) and Flagyl (500mg). Not much improvement the next day. Sent patient to Kaiser HMO for 2 grams of Rocephin IM butt shot. Really helped her out and she was much improved the day after. Not much pain from the shot, she said. Wrote an Rx:

    Rocephin (IM)
    Disp: 2 grams
    Sig: one time

    Came back at the end of the week and she was much improved, greatly reduced swelling, some remaining paresthesia. Sent her to HMO for another round of Rocephin. Great stuff for these types of massive swelling situations. Pretty much what an MD at the ER would do seeing that kind of facial swelling–short of IV antibiotics. Critical to O&M though to drain the pus out. Seen only 4 of these types of cases in 18 years. Usually, there is no need for local infiltration, since the pH is so low and there is no vital tissue in the canals. Less fluids to put pressure in the area and possible disperse cellulitis deeper…

    Scary stuff for all.

    Bob

    in reply to: Laser incision and drainage #10259

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    What is Rocephin ?

    Flagyl and Aumentin (which antibiotics are these)

    Thanks Bob…….really interesting post.

    He is coming back today.

    FLagyl was what we were going to prescribe but that is apparently broken down in the liver and will cause problems with the coumadin levels he was on.

    The medical complications really reaked havoc with me.

    Glenn

    in reply to: 2nd hand Waterlase #11390

    mickey frankl
    Spectator

    Thanks for all your coments.
    It is amasing how dentists from US,Canada,Newzeland and UK can discuss maters and advise one another.

    I have decided (with your help) to get a new Waterlase in the UK.
    Thanks Alot

    Mickey

    in reply to: Laser incision and drainage #10265

    Robert Gregg
    Participant

    Hi Glenn,

    Here’s some stuff I was able to dig up.  You were dead-on right about being cautious with the Flagyl on the liver and for patients on Coumadin.

    1.  Rocephin (Ceftriaxone sodium)  is a sterile, semisynthetic, broad-spectrum cephalosporin antibiotic for intravenous or intramuscular administration.

    Microbiology: The bactericidal activity of ceftriaxone results from inhibition of cell wall synthesis. Ceftriaxone has a high degree of stability in the presence of beta-lactamases, both penicillinases and cephalosporinases, of gram-negative and gram-positive bacteria.

    2.  Augmentin® (Amoxicillin and Clavulanic Acid) is a brand name for the drug amoxicillin/clavulanate potassium.

    Augmentin is used in the treatment of lower respiratory, middle ear, sinus, skin, and urinary tract infections that are caused by certain specific bacteria. These bacteria produce a chemical enzyme called beta lactamase that makes some infections particularly difficult to treat. It’s also used for other infections as long as the bacteria turns out to be susceptible to Amoxicillin.

    Amoxicillin is a semisynthetic antibiotic with a broad spectrum of bactericidal activity against many gram-positive and gram-negative microorganisms. Amoxicillin is, however, susceptible to degradation by b-lactamases and, therefore, the spectrum of activity does not include organisms which produce these enzymes. Clavulanic acid is a b-lactam, structurally related to the penicillins, which possesses the ability to inactivate a wide range of b-lactamase enzymes commonly found in microorganisms resistant to penicillins and cephalosporins. In particular, it has good activity against the clinically important plasmid mediated b-lactamases frequently responsible for transferred drug resistance.

    3.  Flagyl is Metronidazole (MET).  It is an antiprotozoal.  It is also used to treat anaerobic infections.  It is a Narcan or Antibuse analog so it will make the patient sick with ethyl alcohol.

    Metronidazole is the drug of choice for subgingival plaque consisting primarily of anaerobic Gram-negative rods and spirochetes. It is bactericidal rather than bacteriostatic, which allows it to function effectively independent of the host defense system.

    The hydroxymetabolite of metronidazole (produced in the human liver) is even more active against A. actinomycetemcomitans in vitro, and has been shown to act synergistically against A. actinomycetemcomitans. In addition, both metronidazole and its hydroxymetabolite act synergistically with amoxicillin. Metronidazole covers most anaerobes, and amoxicillin most facultative and aerobic bacteria, making this combination useful for many mixed periodontal infections. Recommended doses of metronidazole are 250 to 500 mg TID for 7 to 10 days.304

    Contraindications. Some objections to use of metronidazole are gastric discomfort, severe diarrhea, and bitter taste. A significant GI reaction may occur if metronidazole is taken in conjunction with alcohol, since MET has an antabuse effect.  Flagyl should be used with caution in patients with liver disease.

    Source: Journal of Periodontology, Annals Vol. 1  (491 – 566): Section 5B: Non-Surgical Pocket Therapy: Pharmacotherapeutics  Connie Hastings Drisko



    Cautions:

    Do not drink alcohol while taking Flagyl and for at least 72 hours after last dose.

    If Flagyl is taken with certain other drugs, the effects of either could be increased, decreased, or altered. It is especially important to check with a physician before combining Flagyl with any of the following:

    Blood thinners such as Coumadin
    Cholestyramine (Questran)
    Cimetidine (Tagamet)
    Disulfiram (Antabuse)
    Lithium (Eskalith)
    Phenobarbital
    Phenytoin (Dilantin)

    Bob

    in reply to: Laser incision and drainage #10247

    jetsfan
    Spectator

    Today I had an unusual post op frpm a “simple” mandibular frenectomy. Patient is a 35y/o female in good health. No meds. Perfomed a frenectomy at .25-.5 W no water. The procedure was accomplished without anesthesia, minimal bleeding. Patient remark when getting up was that it was quick and easy. About three hours later I was paged by her. She said that the left side of her face was a little swollen and the lower jaw hurt.I advised her to apply iceand take pain meds. I will follow up tomorrow. Anyone have any ideas, as to what is going on or have had similar experience.

    in reply to: Removal of FS in suspicious tooth #11282

    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Glenn,

    I think what I like best about this case is the great “micro-dentistry” diagnosis. With the scope you are able to diagnosis and perform the dentistry on a much smaller scale.

    I would like to share a tid-bit I learned from an “old timer” (even older than me) about why we place a “watch” on that decay. It shows how change comes hard and with some difficulty. Years ago – before carbide burrs and highspeed handpieces – the only burrs were steal and the handpieces were belt driven. You may have seen some of these in the museum. The surface of the healthy enamel was very difficult to penetrate with a steal burr but if you would wait until the decay was big enough so that the steal burr could get into it then you could undermine the enamel and it was easier to break away the healthy part and you could get a decent prep – even extension for prevention with this method. Times have changed and we need to stop “holding our horses” for our howitzers now.

    Thanks again Glenn for practicing outside of the box and for sharing with us.

    in reply to: Removal of FS in suspicious tooth #11285

    Glenn van As
    Spectator

    Thanks Del…….hope to meet you in the next couple of days at the CDA. I talked to Mark Colonna today…..

    What a nice guy he is on the phone.

    If you havent tried his instruments, check out his web page and try em out.

    They are excellent.

    Glenn

    in reply to: Laser incision and drainage #10245

    Anonymous
    Spectator
    QUOTE
    Quote: from jetsfan on 9:47 pm on April 23, 2003
    Today I had an unusual  post op frpm a “simple” mandibular frenectomy. Patient is a 35y/o female in good health. No meds. Perfomed a frenectomy at .25-.5 W no water. The procedure was accomplished without anesthesia, minimal bleeding. Patient remark when getting up was that it was quick and easy. About three hours later I was paged by her. She said that the left side of her face was a little swollen and the lower jaw hurt.I advised her to apply iceand take pain meds. I will follow up tomorrow. Anyone have any ideas, as to what is going on or have had similar experience.

    Haven’t heard of anything like that, Keep us updated.

    in reply to: Trunk Fiber #9196

    Anonymous
    Spectator

    Ben, I joined your club this morning.

    Last week we had routine maintenance done on the Waterlase and everything checked out fine except needing a little water in the system.

    Yesterday put in a new G4 tip and prepped 1 primary molar with no previous restoration.

    This morning started to bathe tooth #10 and after 60 seconds the popping was gone.Air , Water present but no HENE beam or ercrYSGG beam. Wierd part is I can’t see that anything is blackened.

    Service to send a new fiber.

    This is the second fiber since August. The first one was definitely blackened though.

    FRUSTRATING!

    in reply to: Trunk Fiber #9221

    2thlaser
    Spectator

    I wonder if a new batch of “bad” tips are on the market. I know that has happened before. I really try to fire the laser out of the patients mouth prior to starting any procedure, and look for the everfrearful white spark. Sometimes the tips blow from the inside out, if you are just near an metallic surface, i.e. crown/amalgam. I had that happen yesterday, and sure enough, bad tip, replaced and kept on working. Kept me from blowing fiber/handpiece. Seriously though, I wonder what’s happening to you guys, full moon in that part of the country?rock.gif Hope you are both back lasering soon.
    Mark

    in reply to: Laser incision and drainage #10269

    Robert Gregg DDS
    Spectator

    Jetsfan–

    I would be interested in knowing the location of the frenum and it orientation to teeth and mucosa and whether bone was involved. How large and dep an area was involved.

    But generally speaking, it is not at all unusual for patients to report slight or minor swelling within the first 12 to 24 hours following soft tissue surgery with a laser. I have never really given it a whole lot of thought as to why it occurs because it is so transient and uneventful.

    Your recommendation for ice and anti-inflammatories is the right thing to do. I have learned to liberally prescribe both ice and Motrin in all laser soft tissue patient for the first 24 hours.

    It sounds like you have a very “tuned-in” patient who is merely reporting an mild outcome more than a complaint. And we all have patients like that.

    Most of our patients will not share their deep-down feelings and impressions about anything we do unless we probe and persist. That’s interesting patient behavior since most of the time, we are just happy that they are not complaining about something!

    But when you ask–no, interview–your patients about how they are feeling, and how they felt during and after a laser procedure, you will be amazed at some of the perspectives they will share. At first they will give you standard answer that they think you want to hear like, “fine”, “no problem”. But you must really give them permission, explore, probe and then sit back and listen in order to get their true impressions. That’s not stuff we’re all that good or natural at doing for us technically oriented dentists. Bt sit back and be ready to be amazed……..”out of the mouths of babes!”

    Bob

    in reply to: New Member Welcome #9340

    Robert Gregg DDS
    Spectator

    Hey!

    I see Dale Schlehuber has joined the forum. A 4 year PerioLase Nd:YAG user. Welcome Dale!

    Bob

    in reply to: Laser incision and drainage #10249

    jetsfan
    Spectator

    the incision was mabe 1 cm. , mostly mucosa. It did not involve bone. I spoke with patient this am and she said she is still swollen in her cheek and she felt it in her neck. She did say it seemed to be getting better. I told her I will follow up, but if not much improved she will see oral surgeon, as I am going out of town tomorrow. My concern is air emphysema,which could be serious.It is my understanding that this is an uncommon sequelae of surgery whereby air is forced into submucosa. As the waterlase does employ air , it makes me wonder.

    in reply to: Trunk Fiber #9190

    Anonymous
    Spectator

    The first one I’ll take credit for as I’m sure I fried a tip.

    This one was out of the blue. I always run the laser before using on a patient to let them hear it and I watch the tip to make sure there is no arcing and that water is going.

    We always make sure air is going when we change tips to keep things dry.

    When it went , the tip was far enough away that there was no effect on the surface of the tooth as I wanted to keep bathing it another 30 seconds.

    The tech seems to think the defect might be in the middle of the trunk fiber since everthing but the 2 beams worked.

    Guess I’ll find out Monday when the new fiber arrives.  

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