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March 12, 2003 at 6:45 am in reply to: Pediatric Caries #11480

Glenn van As
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Sounds like fun Ron and if you get an office…….make sure you invite me to come and lecture to all the dentists of St. maarten …….hehehe

Mark, have a great trip to Europe and I will talk to you when I get back from the trip to the Hinman at Atlanta.

Going next week.

Glenn

March 12, 2003 at 2:29 pm in reply to: low level laser therapy for pulpitis and healing of oral sur #10672

Benchwmer
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Bob,
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
I didn’t know you used all those 7 pulse widths on the PerioLase MVP-7.
More tools to work with.

March 12, 2003 at 9:57 pm in reply to: ALD Meeting #10574

Robert Gregg DDS
Spectator

Allen,

Thanks for confirming the Waterlase parameters. Tom couldn’t believe me when I said 140. I can understand why since the acoustical recoil is such a “crack”, and 300 mj/pulse is quite a punch too.

Glenn–Sounds like interest in scopes was OUTSTANDING. Great to see the BUZZ is being created for scopes. That’s great!

ALD says they wants to see science for claims, Jeff showed his bone regeneration case for endo and perio, anyone who wanted to see the histology was invited to come to the booth and see it. Only a few did. Seems the request for science was not so sincere, and not the reason for the reticence in accepting that bone is being regenerated along with PDL and new cementum.

Millennium is going to have a hospitality suite on Saturday night at the Anaheim Hilton, in the Coronado Room from 6-10 pm. We’re in booth #2431 at the show. Come on by either or both and let’s visit– drinks are on me at the hospitality suite–or anywhere we end up knocking down a few!

Cheers!

Bob

March 13, 2003 at 12:20 am in reply to: ALD Meeting #10577

Swpmn
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Fantastic!!!!!!

Glenn and Bob, I look forward to meeting you in Anaheim!

Al

March 13, 2003 at 1:23 am in reply to: Off Topic #3122

dkimmel
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Autoclaving of airturbine handpieces is pretty much a standard. What about the Waterlase handpiece? Do we have the same problems with water suckback? There are no moving parts? I know it can be autoclaved but I also know what it does fiberopics!
What are you’ll doing?
David

March 13, 2003 at 1:23 am in reply to: Off Topic #3150

dkimmel
Spectator

Autoclaving of airturbine handpieces is pretty much a standard. What about the Waterlase handpiece? Do we have the same problems with water suckback? There are no moving parts? I know it can be autoclaved but I also know what it does fiberopics!
What are you’ll doing?
David

March 13, 2003 at 2:41 am in reply to: ALD Meeting #10572

Glenn van As
Spectator

Hi Allen I will make sure we get together and have a laugh or two ……you both have helped me grow more educated in lasers outside of my own and I hope that my posts have helped some understand the possibilities with my lasers.

Glenn

March 13, 2003 at 3:32 am in reply to: Eye Protection and Erbium Lasers #6931

Alan Cady
Spectator

The problem I have with the safety glasses it that they will not fit behind my DFV glasses. I have them so that I have to bend my neck very little. When I put them on my 5.0 Surgitels they also fog up just like Janet. Ant although I still get excited about lasers after 2 1/2 years use, I control that well. ;o)
Alan Cady

March 13, 2003 at 3:32 am in reply to: Class V on lower third molar #7566

Alan Cady
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The problem I have with the safety glasses it that they will not fit behind my DFV glasses. I have them so that I have to bend my neck very little. When I put them on my 5.0 Surgitels they also fog up just like Janet. Ant although I still get excited about lasers after 2 1/2 years use, I control that well. ;o)
Alan Cady

March 13, 2003 at 6:31 am in reply to: General Erbium Discussion #2841

Glenn van As
Spectator

Hi folks………sometimes I just start shooting photos and lo and behold something turns out of nothing.

THis lady came in and saw the associate who told her she needed a simple patch to her tooth til she could afford a crown.

She waited for me (2 months) and then when I saw her I had an hour and thought……..oh oh.

The DL cusp was broken on the lower right 2nd molar and tough to see (pt. cant open wide at all).

I first used the argon to find out where the tooth structure was and found it to be at the height of the osseous level.

I then prepared with the erbium laser with water to remove tissue tags at 30 Hz and 80 mj or so and thought all was ok til I removed the rest of the amalgam and then the last picture on the first page (pic #8) shows the darn ML cusp just came off as it was cracked as well (this always happens on those darn lower molars).

Now I got some fun…………

I didnt know what to do …..buildup, endo plus bu, pin retained laser etched core buildup and temp crown is what I decided to do after osseous recontouring with the laser on the lingual at 30 Hz and 120 mj with 600 micron tip to get 3mm of tooth .

I then placed 2 tiny pins and explained to patient that it may lead to endo.

Then we built up the tooth in resin , reprepped the tooth and placed a stainless steel crown on the tooth which was long to push the tissue back.

I went 30 mins overtime here and it was tough. I was over lunch time and didnt want to ask my awesome dental assistant to get the impression material.

We placed a temp and will re evaluate as to whether we need endo or not in 4 weeks.

Tissue will heal by then.

Kinda a cool case I thought……….

Glenn

March 13, 2003 at 7:12 am in reply to: What would you do #6250

Glenn van As
Spectator

Here is the insert of the crown on the first post on this thread which I did today. Look how I could visually see when I had adjusted the contacts enough to allow for the lingual margin to go into place. The crown seated without the need for an explorer.

WHat is interesting is how the patient now asked me about the rest of the amalgams on that side (after watching me seat the crown on that tooth) and is prepared to go ahead with a crown on the molar and two composites on the premolars (I had to really talk him into the first crown).

This is constant with the scope and the video from it, patients demand to have other work (usually old amalgams) removed when they see the crowns being placed at high mag.

glenn

March 13, 2003 at 7:50 am in reply to: Hard Tissue Procedures #3482

ASI
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Greeting to all:

1. Would appreciate inputs and opions from everyone about the pros and cons of Waterlase vs Delight.

2. Would like to know breakdown of numbers of user to each system.

3. Knowing what you know, if you were to repurchase one, which would it be?

Thanks for your anticipated response.

Regards to all,

Andrew

March 13, 2003 at 1:13 pm in reply to: RCT #12151

jetsfan
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has anyone tried endo on a vital tooth without anesthetic? details please.
jetsfan

March 13, 2003 at 3:04 pm in reply to: Waterlase vs Delight #11709

Glenn van As
Spectator

Andrew: email me privately and I will forward to you the names of at least 6 people who have both in their office or have had both in their office for extended periods of time and you can email or phone them to find out their experiences with both lasers.

Most of the people here havent had both in their office including me.

I have played with the Biolase only a few times and it is a nice machine.

I have the Continuum Delight laser………

Glenn

March 13, 2003 at 3:04 pm in reply to: Waterlase vs Delight #11704

Anonymous
Spectator

Andrew,

I can’t speak on the Delight, as I do not have one, but I am happy with my Waterlase. The company provides good service and I’ve only had 1 problem with the unit.

I can’t say the same for my Biolase Twilite diode which has thermisitor problems, foot pedal problems, and fiber problems (fiber connectors separating) all in the 1st 7 months.
The only real disappointment with the Waterlase is, like the other users, finding out thru the grapevine about the high priced warranty. I also think their training could be much better. Most of what I’ve learned has come thru the generosity of the guys who post their cases here.

If I were to repurchase, I would still lean toward the Waterlase as I’m familiar with it now, but I’d definitely take a closer look( than I did previously) at the Delight

I’m sure Glenn will weigh in on the Continuum product as I know he is pleased with his.

Are you mainly interested in a hard tissue laser?

BTW, welcome to the forum!
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