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Glenn van AsSpectatorOne more for the road. I just thought I would post one last case to show you how sneaky those non cavitated lesions are.
I have mentioned that caries detector gel on erbium preps gives false positives on enamel, and is tough to remove. Here is the visual proof.
Preps are around 3mm deep and in addition flowables were used.
Glenn
SwpmnSpectatorCool use of your argon. Show us the healed post op later on if you get a chance.
Great new signature photo!!!! Makes you look a lot younger than your old one with the scope, ha ha ha!!!
Al
rtemddsSpectatorI am considering purchasing the Biolase or the Opusdent Duo. I am impressed with the opus laser (this on is different than the opus 20. Can anyone please shed light on these 2 systems. It seems to me that most people that i speak to favor the Biolase system. Any help would greatly appreciated
AnonymousParticipant1 more amalgam removal
Er,Cr:YSGG 5.25W 95/85 60 seconds defocused buccal then prep decayed grooves for another 60 seconds. High speed removal of amalgam then slow speed for final decay removal. GI base followed by Fugi LC , etch, bond and restore with tetric flow & ceram. No local or topical anesthesia. Can’t wait for a better camera but these will have to do for now.Preop intraoral camera image
[img]https://www.laserdentistryforum.com/attachments/upload/ampreop.JPG[/img]Intraoral camera after high and slow speed
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Glass ionomer and Fuji LC placed- intraoral camera image
[img]https://www.laserdentistryforum.com/attachments/upload/amgi.JPG[/img]Restoration
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Glenn van AsSpectatorHi Al: thanks for the kind words, and my photo has to be in the signature now for good. Ron did it!!
Thanks Ron.
I would love to post the postop picture but I dont know who the patient was any more :>(
I will post another case today in a minute, that you will love.
Glenn
PS my 41 year old body doesnt feel that young anymore…..
Mark Colonnas pic outdoes mine anyday!!
Glenn
Glenn van AsSpectatorHi there………my suggestion is to consider either the Biolase or the Continuum laser.
They both are Erbium Yag (not Nd:Yags) and you can look in the erbium sections and see cases done with both. I only know of a couple of Opus users who have the machine.
Bob Convissar is one in New York.
You cant go wrong with either unit and I prefer Continuum but most here have Biolase.
Both work and both are good machines from good companies……
( Hey Mark …….hows that for non biased huh!!)(My new years resolution and PS did you fellows notice in all the ads lately nothing about hydrokinetics……….could the ramblings of one insane man (me) make a difference?
PS I like the new ads from Biolase, there isnt one thing I want to argue.
glenn
AnonymousParticipantrtemdds,
Welcome to the forum.
Make sure you also look at the companies support. Biolase has been terrific with the couple problems I’ve had.Glenn has had great things to say about Continuum. Haven’t heard much about Opus support.Do your research, make your choice, and join the fun.
I’m amazed daily at what the lasers can do- take a look at the amalgam removal with no anesthetic case I posted today under hard tissue procedures .
Good luck,
rtemddsSpectatormy first impression of the 2 companies(biolase and opusdent):
1) Biolase tries to appeal to the male primal instincts with placing female models that are well enhanced in all aspects of cosmetic palstic surgeries wearing t-shirts”I love men who want to get lased”,or somthing to that effect.
2) opus tries to appeal to the dentist who is very discerning and looks at the facts before making a major investment.The comparison of Apple vs. microsoft holds true in this instance. Biolase has an unbeleivable marketing genius behind it;hence comparison to microsoft. Opus seems to follow the same mistakes with Apple;elitist mentality(we are the best, we will have the highest marketshare because of that). We all saw where that lead Apple, eventhough they are making a comeback, not enough to compete with the big boys.
One of the arguments that I have heard in support of
Opus ; it has a contacting tip Biolase doesn’t. With biolase you never know where you are. Is this true with Biolase? I have never seen anyone defending the virtues of opusdent. Is this because they don’t have enough dentists out there using it or is it because Opus is not a great product? Are there any users of the new Opus duo out there that can help me?Thank you
AnonymousParticipantQUOTE1) Biolase tries to appeal to the male primal instincts with placing female models that are well enhanced in all aspects of cosmetic palstic surgeries wearing t-shirts”I love men who want to get lased”,or somthing to that effect.I didn’t see these but have heard of this marketing. I think its very tacky and hopefully Biolase will realize they have a strong enough product that they don’t have to resort to this kind of thing.
QUOTEOne of the arguments that I have heard in support of
Opus ; it has a contacting tip Biolase doesn’t. With biolase you never know where you are. Is this true with Biolase?The necessity of ‘contact tips ‘ seems strange to me considering that the Erbium has its effect thru absorption of the laser beam, not a mechanical effect. It would also be interesting to find out how these contact tips have their effect.
Knowing where you are is accomplished thru magnification.
According to Manni, alot of contact tip lasers have their effect thru heat conduction(Dental Applications of Advanced Lasers). This would seem to negate one of the positives of the erbium in that it can actually lower pulpal tempature.
Maybe you can get someone from opus to join the board and tell us all how those work.
rtemddsSpectatorThank you so much for your insightful comments. I actually like Opus but can’t seem to find anyone who cares to commment on it’s attributes. What seems to be the problem with this machine? Is there someone out there who loves the Opus who can convince me to purchase it over the other lasers?
2thlaserSpectatorOk, Now Glenn, MY PICTURE outdoes YOURS! Hardly! I got back in the saddle again today, it was great. I did a couple of crown lengthenings, one on a case that was similar to yours in DT today. Tooth #4 though. I was so busy, I had no time to photograph it. If I had my scope….they still haven’t contacted me, are they that slow? Just wondering. I do like the new pic Glenn. Don’t let Al start something here!!! 😉
Mark
2thlaserSpectatorAgain, Glenn, You are right. The new ads are great, and I hope you DID have an effect. Thanks for the support on your end for us Biolase users. We know what you can do on patients with your Continuum, and I applaud you. Funny how different tools work in each of our hands. Glad to see you probably made a difference.
Mark
Glenn van AsSpectatorHi Mark…………I read your post in the laser forum and was going to ask you whom you talked to in your area.
Global isnt really that slow, but let me know about who was going to bring the demo in and I will lean on the powers that be.
Got some cool stuff today from Gary Carr who is the grandfather of microscopy , a video on training your staff (very good and frightening at the end to see 1996 as the date), and some digital imaging stuff, like some awesome mirrors which reflect 40% more light and also some database imaging stuff to store files……..very cool
Let me know who in Global you talked to , what you are looking for (its a demo scope right?) and I will get some action for you going.
The scopes when you order them do take 6 weeks to get or so, they build them stock once you order it.
Hope I can help you either email me or give me a call at work at 604 985 1232
Glenn
This was sent to you by email too mark.
Glenn
Glenn van AsSpectatorHi there rtemdds………I would personally stay away from the Opusdent duo if you are interested in the best delivery system.
I am not a big fan of the hollow tub with mirrors as you lose alot of energy with this system. It requires alot of maintenance and replacement every couple of months.
I have not had anything go wrong with my fiber for 3 years now.
I believe that you only get 15% of the energy generated by the laser out the end.
Contact tips are great in theory and I can put my Continuum tip in contact as well but it tends to break the tip down faster and then it needs replacement.
I am a firm believer that every laser user should have magnification to help them as the fibers and tips are small (less than 1/2mm in diameter in some cases) and that makes it difficult to see how far away from the object you are.
Read through the erbium posts and see all the topics about how far you need to be away.
I wont talk you into buying the Opusdent and I wont talk you out of it, but the scarcity of replies about the product should tell you something about it.
Just a thought……….
My opinion remains unchanged, look at the fiber delivery systems of Biolase or Continuum and if you want a duo go with a package of the diode and the ERbium Yag from Continuum which will be far less than the CO2 and erbium yag that Opus is offering ( I think they sell it for 45K at Continuum).
Glenn
whitertthSpectatorinteresting case….patients shows up just now with this endodontically treated fractured tooth. She has been saving to do all her anterior crowns at once…I removed decay at 6 watts 90/75 then fitted a structure fibrecore post. Prior to bonding it in I laser etched the post( see photo) silanated it, Bonding agent and restored with Durafill. The final restoration is acceptable since it is a buildup for a future crown to be done soon,,,Shade very tough as her teeth have multiple shades
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