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Nick LuizziSpectatorDavid, Good Post. Thanks for shareing your journey with us. The things that you say only confirm the idea that when you have a vision for your life and the passon to fulfill it, that it creates an energy that’s unstoppabled. This laser stuff is really cool, your points of view help all the rest of us on our individual journeys. Don’t let the hurricanes get you. Nick
SwpmnSpectatorNice case.
Do you guys mind explaining physics/rationale behind shorter Pulse Duration for anterior vs. posterior teeth with Nd:YAG? Is it related to narrower facio/lingual dimensions of alveolar complex in the anterior?
What is “wet” hemostasis?
Thanks,
Robert Gregg DDSSpectatorAllen–
Pulse duration (time) approximately = zone/dimension (in microns) of thermal effect.
100 usec PD (time) approx = 100 microns (dimensional) zone of thermal effect
250 usec approx = 250 microns
etc……
So you are correct about your assumptions. One needs to be well trained/cautioned about using long PD in thin tissue/bone–like around anterior teeth vs bulky mandibular bone.
“Wet” hemostasis is a red thrombus that also contains fibrin. We also refer to it as a “stable fibrin clot” as such:
3 minutes immediately post op extraction and 650 usec long pulse duration (with one suture on the mesial due to torn tissue). NOTE: the grey fibrin strands coarsing through the clot, and the areas of thrombi.
Thanks for the great question.
Bob
(Edited by Robert Gregg DDS at 12:25 am on July 22, 2005)
SwpmnSpectatorIt’s definitely a journey.
My greatest concern today is the marketing of lasers to dentists. Hype, BS and outright lies. Unrealistic expectations. Wrong wavelength for legitimate procedures. Optional training.
The application of lasers in dentistry is so different from our dental school handpiece training that we must insist on proper training prior to purchase of a dental laser. Every dentist purchasing a dental laser should be required to undergo instruction in laser physics, laser safety and scientifically-based clinical application of the chosen wavelength. When I first started, I didn’t know a rat’s a$$ about anything, believed all the lies and made every mistake in the book.
czeqm8SpectatorIs it possible to remove a veneer with any of the hard tissue lasers or other lasers? If possible, will the porcelain be ruined or can the porcelain be reused?
A laser salesman was pushing this idea to my partner.
Matt
dkimmelSpectatorWhen I first started, I didn’t know a rat’s a$$ about anything, believed all the lies and made every mistake in the book.
Man , Allen you know how to get to the heart of the matter. You are so right. Though I think I may have made a few more mistakes.
AnonymousSpectatorHere’s a start, Matt.
SwpmnSpectatorThanks, Robert, that was most helpful.
Al
SwpmnSpectatorQUOTEIs it possible to remove a veneer with any of the hard tissue lasers or other lasers? If possible, will the porcelain be ruined or can the porcelain be reused?A laser salesman was pushing this idea to my partner.
Matt
Matt:
While I’ve never done this, I’ve seen some cases presented and believe it is possible to remove ceramic veneers with erbium lasers.
I do not believe current erbium lasers can cut porcelain as none of my bench tests showed any effect. However, both of my erbium lasers cut modern day composite like butter. My theory is erbium wavelength can partially transmit through thin ceramic veneers and be readily absorbed by the underlying composite cement. Microfractures then propagate througout the composite cement and the veneer is dislodged.
Not sure why we would want to reuse the veneer but in theory I think it might be possible to remove a veneer without damaging the porcelain. Actually, now that I’m thinking, occasionally one gets a veneer stuck on in the wrong position so perhaps this would be an indication.
Hope this helped,
Al
SwpmnSpectatorLooks real nice, Jeff.
Dr. Gregg once let me use the PerioLase at the 100Hz “diode” setting on hog palate. Was impressed with the smooth incision.
Al
BenchwmerSpectatorAl,
Saw the patient at 3 week post-op today, couldn’t even find the excision site. All healed.
Looking good.
Jeff
Robert Gregg DDSSpectatorVery nice Jeff!
Did you get a photo of the post op AREA that you didn’t find? Tough to rationalize and do in a busy day. Just wondering.
Bob
BenchwmerSpectatorBob,
I took 4 photos yesterday. I still use my Nikkon and Macro 1:1 lens w/ Ring Flash for thses cases I post. That means I need to have the slide film developed, then I scan the slides using an HP PhotoSmart scanner and software.
Lester Dine wants 񘘐 to retrofit my lenses on a Fugi digital camera body (which is twice the size of my present camera). I’m still shopping.
Eric Compton set up the MirrorScope for video and still photography in my new operatory. It works well for video capturing and direct viewing in the adjacent classroom, but doesv’t work as sold for still photography. Creates great DVDs though.
Will post post-ops in a couple of weeks.
Jeff
Glenn van AsSpectatorNice case Jeff………your photos are sharp and clear. I did some DVD filming for Ivoclar in the office for the Odyssey and it seems like video is the way to go these days…….
Anyways……gotta run but nice case and your photos are nice and sharp.
Glenn
Vince C FavaSpectatorHi Matt,
I have removed veneers with my erbium (2940 DELight). I believe Al’s hypothesis is accurate. The porcelain then had microfractures propagating and ceramic pieces came off. Not all of it came loose though and a high speed handpiece was also used. As you can imagine, their not rebonded.
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