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Glenn van AsSpectatorHey Bob if you can scan the patient chart and fax it to 604 985 1732 that would be awesome.
I doubt I made much of a difference and so I will bump up the energy settings. 1 watt is what I use with troughing , its in contact but I am sure that it will heat up the tongue if not defocussed.
Oh I wish Eric the mighty bright one was here to help out.
ERic if you are scrounging around, email me with some settings you would use with the diode at glennvanas@yahoo.com
Thanks guys…….gotta phone him tomorrow.
Glenn
etienneSpectatorThanks Glenn
Photos would be appreciated when you get round to it!
Take care
Etienne
etienneSpectatorHi Bob
Sorry, I should have been more specific.The cases I saw were done with laser to (reportedly)remove the softtissue (granuloma), sterilize the site, initiate clotting, stimulate stem cells and release growth factors. The sites were then augmented with PRP in combination with a graft material. No membranes were used if I remember corrcetly, the PRP/graft “clot” was just stabilized with a suture.
I don’t recall having ever seen research on this. I am basing my thoughts on the cases that I have seen and my experience of similar cases and were very impressed with the results obtained by Dr Martelli.
Are you aware of any research on this?
Thanks for your time
Etienne
Robert Gregg DDSSpectatorEtienne,
No I have not seen any research in this:
“The cases I saw were done with laser to (reportedly)remove the soft tissue (granuloma), sterilize the site, initiate clotting, stimulate stem cells and release growth factors. The sites were then augmented with PRP in combination with a graft material. No membranes were used if I remember corrcetly, the PRP/graft “clot” was just stabilized with a suture.”
If you release stems cells, growth factors, and get clotting–what’s the point of adding concentrate platelets??? All that PRP does is run off it’s so fluid and runny.
Sutures w/o bone graft and membrane won’t keep the ridge, except “by guess and by golly”.
But I like the thought process going on by you and those who you saw!
Bob
etienneSpectator(Edited by etienne at 2:22 am on Jan. 6, 2007)
mickey franklSpectatorI had a problem with my waterlase and after discusing this with the technical support in Germany(they were very very helpful) diagnosed the problem as a burnt mirror in the handpiece.
I called the UK company who look after these lasers (Instinctive) and they told me to send them the handpiece.They then called me and said they will charge me 辎 USD to look at the handpiece and any repairs will be charged extra.
This seems greatly expensive!
Has anyone got any idea how much this repair should cost in the US?
They offered me a survice contract for 񙎼 USD which does not cover the fibre hence I have no contract.Thanks for any advice
Mickey
SwpmnSpectatorA follow up on this thread to demonstrate the confusion over ALD Standard Proficiency:
On the http://www.symphony-of-light.com website, there are four seminars advertised through the end of this year. While all four have a heading “…& Certification Program”, if one reads carefully, only one of the seminars mentions ALD Standard Proficiency. Yet I double checked the ALD website again today, and neither the company or the instructors are listed as Recognized Standard Proficiency Course Providers.
But to quote the ALD website(http://www.laserdentistry.org):
An applicant who has taken a non-recognized course would not be accepted.
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What gives? Beats me or perhaps I’m beating a dead horse. But many of us were lead to believe that attaining Standard Proficiency from the ALD was the “standard of care” to demonstrate that we had some idea of what the heck we were doing. The idea that doctors may be misled on their Certification greatly disturbs me.
Glenn van AsSpectatorHi folks……..I got an email from Stu Coleton who forwarded Gail Siminovksy reply (CAE of the ALD)
WHat it said is that in order to get Standard Proficiency the course but be given by a member of the ALD who has been given RCP (Recognized Course Provider) by the ALD.
In the past Drs. Joel White, Peter Rechmann and others have offered the lecturing for Opus.
If the course was not taught by someone who is recognized as a registered course provider then the standard proficiency will not be given out by the ALD.
The company may have used handout materials that were used in a course taught by someone who was capable of being the RCP but in this case it most likely wasnt.
I hope that this clears up any confusion on the matter. Basically the course was probably taught by someone not recognized by the ALD and as such the course should not have been advertised as being provided as a standard proficiency course.
Hope this helps…….
Glenn
Glenn van AsSpectatorBob, I think that they are comparing SRP to PDD.
In other words if on average the SRP led to a 1mm drop in pockets, the PDD led to a 1.52mm drop. (152%)…..
That is my take on the numbers.
Glenn
mickey franklSpectatorI had a problem with my waterlase and after discusing this with the technical support in Germany(they were very very helpful) diagnosed the problem as a burnt mirror in the handpiece.
I called the UK company who look after these lasers (Instinctive) and they told me to send them the handpiece.They then called me and said they will charge me 辎 USD to look at the handpiece and any repairs will be charged extra.
This seems greatly expensive!
Has anyone got any idea how much this repair should cost in the US?
They offered me a survice contract for 񙎼 USD which does not cover the fibre hence I have no contract.Thanks for any advice
Mickey
Robert Gregg DDSSpectatorLOL!!!
Thanks Glenn.
If that is how they are calculating their results, then it’s hocus pocus data reporting and misleading to me.
Bob
Kent SmithSpectatorI can’t believe there is not a company that can provide a clip-on fliter for an NdYAG for less than 跌. Where is the competition?
Glenn van AsSpectatorKent…….I am sure that what keeps many out of the marketplace is the fear of legal action. In addition it still is such a small market that the big boys dont want to spend the time.
I think that newer designs and ideas will be forthcoming in the future, lets hope for everyones sake.
All the best
Glenn
dkimmelSpectatorI was showing Katie how great the Er was for treating Apthous ulcers with the Er laser. She had a nice small one in the buccal vestibule. I treated it and it did not fell better right after treatment as per usual. I retreated it the second day and still no difference. It does look like a like a typical Apthous ulcer….. Great confidence builder huh??
So the question is???
Anyone treat an apthous ucler with a Nd:YAG?
How are the results?Thanks
David
dkimmelSpectatorMickey,
I am afraid you are stuck. Changing a mirror is easy but getting a mirror is almost impossible…. The tech was suppose to come by this week and I was going to ask for you about cost etc…. However something came up….
In the mean time check out this threadhttp://www.rwebstudio.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard//topic.cgi?forum=29&topic=115
Our you out of comisson or just down one handpiece?
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