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Dr S ParkerSpectatorDear Bob,
Given the speed of your response, I guess that makes two dentists on the planet that have nothing better to do! Thank you.
Forgive me, my early remarks were in response to my interpretation of your comments:
“What is missing is a clinical academy run by clinicians, giving the clincial members what they want and need to perform in their clinical dentistry using various lasers and techniques–not 15 minute abstracts of the esoteric and scientific research.That’s where ALD has lost its direction and way regarding the original founding purpose of the founders. ALD should be about the clinicains NOT the academicians!”
I accept and respect your diligence in fostering greater understanding of laser use in periodontics. My interpretation of relative worth applied to clinical and research emphasis was obviously incorrect and I am happy to acknowledge the fact. Kind regards, Steven
unc1SpectatorGlenn,
can you send me the settings you are using for the versawave–I have been upgraded but really haven’t changed much with the new power available.Thanks,
Tal Link
unc1SpectatorPlease list any CE that you know of for 2006–even refresher or proficiency courses
thanks
Robert Gregg DDSSpectatorSAVE THIS DATE:
February 16, 17, 18, 2006
8:00am to 2:00pm each day. (Afternoons free for breakouts sessions or recreation.)
Millennium’s 3rd Annual Clinician’s MeetingRitz Carlton Resort and Spa
Lake Las Vegas, Henderson, NVIn association with:
Institute for Advanced Laser Dentistry (ILAD) ADA/AGD Recognized CE Provider
No Exclusion meeting: Open to all clinicians, all laser users, all product & device exhibitors.
* Keynote Address – THEODORE MAIMAN, PhD – Inventor of the first working laser.
* PROFESSOR RAY YUKNA, DDS, MS – Director Graduate Perio Program, LSU. University laser perio research.
* EDWIN ZINMAN, DDS, JD – Periodontist & Noted Malpractice Attorney
* GLENN VAN AS, DDS – Erbium laser applications and Microscopes
* ERIC BORNSTEIN, DMD – Laser physics and tissue interactions
* ROD KURTHY, DDS & Howie Horrucks – Direct Mail Marketing
* CHARLES BRAGA, DMD, MS – Laser Periodontics
* KELLY BLODGETT, DDS – CEREC, Waterlase, PerioLase in clinical practice.
* BRUCE BAIRD, DDS – Practice profitability
* DIANE SHARP, RDH – GP Periodontal practice integration
* More……….http://www.millenniumdental.com/MDT-2006-Clinicians-Meeting.htm
or contact 562-860-2908
Kenneth LukSpectatorHi Bob,
What a great list of speakers at your conference!
Ken
Glenn van AsSpectatorSure Tal…….send me your email to glennvanas@shaw.ca
I will do it this week as I am in Tucson now.
Gotta run
Glenn
beantwnSpectatorI am going to the training in December
Robert Gregg DDSSpectatorGreat to have you on board!
We’ll introduce you to more fun and stuff here on the LDF after training.
Bob
AlbodmdSpectatorHave you guys noticed better laser analgesia with the versawave, especially at 15 hz? I haven’t gotten the upgrade yet, was kind of pricey for me and decided to use that money towards a periolase instead.
2thlaserSpectatorAl,
Dr. Laurie Walsh in Australia published a study last December that showed at cycles of 15hz, the conduction of the a and c Pain fibers was decreased dramatically. David and I and others have seen the same thing clinically for over a year and a half now. Also, I don’t even use laser anesthesia that much anymore, I just cut at 10hz, per David, and go right at it. I think we are seeing a nice thermal relaxation time inbetween pulses at 10 hz that the pts. really don’t feel much…Hope everything is good in your neck of Florida!
Sincerely,
Mark
AlbodmdSpectatorMark,
I’ve heard of Walsh’s research and was wondering if something that correlated with it was seen clincially. Good to hear it’s working. I wonder if multiples of 15 hz (30,45) would have a similar effect. Us Florida guys have loved 10 hz for awhile. See we actually do talk about laser stuff at our Hooter’s meetings! Would love to have you down as a guess presenter sometime. 😉
Al B
2thlaserSpectatorThanks Al,
I’d love to come down sometime…as long as I get ride on David’s boat! Not sure if you know this, but my next door neighbor here is one of the women who started Hooters! She is still very active in the ownership, and now starting the Hooters Casino in Las Vegas. Funny.Multiples of 15hz is what works, although I find 15 to be the best for laser analgesia. Let me know how it works for you!! I get to see David in 2 weeks as he is helping us teach our course in Atlanta. Should be a fun/educational weekend as David is truly one of the most knowlegeable in lasers don’t you think??
All my best,
Mark
whitertthSpectatorHey Guys,
Hope all is well…
Interesting point here…I have NEVER been able to cut at 10hz without pain…I spoke to a number of people about that and Jim Jesse went ahead and did sampling of 50 patients who were all doing well at 15 hz and couldnt stand anything at 10hz. At the last two training courses we did, we tried going to 10 hz just to see what would happen and both times the patient was uncomfortable,) one time it was the biolase rep)…So i am not so sure that 10 hz is the answer at least not in the hands of myself and some others that have tried i t….. Just some thoughts..,.l
2thlaserSpectatorRon,
I cordially disagree with you here. I use 10hz all day, I start at 2.0 W and work my way up or down from there, with ZERO sensitivity. Not sure what you guys are doing differently, but between Bob, myself, Kimmel, Stu, and others, we seem to be having excellent success?!Respectfully,
Mark
dkimmelSpectator10 HZ rocks. I really like cutting at 10HZ. No sensitivity. Cuts nice…Blows the black stain away…. What more could you ask for.
I also like 50HZ for margins. I’ll have to check but I am sure it is at .75W . Thing is I do it in contact and moving real fast. Has not distroyed a tip yet. Not sure I would recommend this to the faint at heart…..Ron not sure why you and Jessie are not getting the same results.
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