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spider24SpectatorHi Mickey,
we are just developing a new protocol with 30 W peak-power and a pulse duration of 10 µs at 4.000 – 5.000 Hz. That means an average power of 1.2 – 1.5 W.
Meanwhile there are nearly 100 patients treated with excellent results. I send you the email-adress of the dentist who leads the development of the new protocol via PM.
Olaf
Chip PayetSpectatorHi Robert, my first post on this forum……
I’m seriously contemplating getting a Periolase, although at the moment it’s all going to come down to the money. If not now, then i’m sure next year. Be that as it may…..
I really love doing endo, and I’ve heard that the laser can indeed be used as a step in endo treatment, but don’t know much about it. I don’t know of any endodontists offhand who do so, but it seems to make sense.
Can you elaborate a bit more on this use? I’m sorry, but as a newbie here, I don’t know how to do a comprehensive search yet if the topic has already been addressed.
AnonymousSpectatorHi Chip, welcome to LDF!
Here’s a couple posts to get you started-
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I’m sure Bob will chime in also.
dkimmelSpectatordmd92east,
I thought you just wanted a Yes or No???Your right, a HP is fast, it’s less expensive and you can do almost anything a laser can do…
There are many clinical reasons to use a laser from less fracturing of enamel to being able to do cross arch quads of dentistry without a shot. Its even fun and the patients love it.
From a business point of view it also has merit. It has always been said that as dentist we do not compete with each other but for the patients discretionary dollar. I disagree we do compete , with each other. We compete for the patients that value our services enough to use thier discretionary dollars for dentistry. This is a realtively small number of patients as compared to the total population. The Er lasers brings an increased value of our services to a larger group of potential patients.
It gives me a niche. It shows that I am different from all other practices in my area. It does not allow me to do that many more procedures to increase my billing. It gives me a steady flow of new patients that value what I do and pay for it themselves. (our collection rate YTD is 100%).
Unlike the Periolase and Er laser is not for everyone. You have to change how you think and work when using an Er laser. You have to relearn your restorative skills. You have to invest time and money in your practice.Hope that helps.
dkimmelSpectatorOn scanning, http://www.cadent.co.il/crown_bridge.html
Pretty cool .
etienneSpectatorHi Guys
Sorry, I forgot about this post with all the excitement of laser dentistry!Just to give you some feedback – everything is fine now. I am using the “short” pulse duration for prepping teeth and not the “extra-short” pulse duration anymore. Sensitivity problems are a thing of the past, thanks for the advice, you were spot on!
I have found that the extra short setting works fine when I want to split a root or crown for extraction, the short setting for all the normal preps and the long setting for cutting soft tissue. This makes procedures like apicectomies a pleasure!
Thanks again
Etienne
biglabmaggieSpectatorMy partner and I had a demo of the Powerlase AT in our office last week. We cut extracted teeth and learned about the benefits of having both an Erbium and Nd:YAG on the same unit.
We have been going back and forth on whether or not to purchase any laser. We looked at the Waterlase MD and are still considering simply buying a diode for soft tissue only.
Our pros for the Powerlase are it’s versatility with both types of tissue and essentially have the best types of lasers for both types of tissue on one unit.
The erbium is extremely powerful. It cut the extracted teeth very similarly to a HS handpiece. Could we crank the power that high on an pt. that is not anesthetized? I don’t know.
They also offer with the purchase an 8 hour DVD training as well as one full day in the office with a trained dentist. I have come to realize (after hours on DT and LDF reading posts – this is my first post) that to be successful with lasers training is critical and this would not suffice long term but would get us started.
Another huge positive is after the training period, there is a 60 trial period where if you don’t like the laser, you get your money back. No other laser company offers this trial period which is simply unbelievable. What else (in life) can you purchase that costs this much without even trying the equipment before you purchase?
The negatives to the laser are its size and the fact that it doesn’t seemed to be used by many dentists. It requires 220 power which means some wiring costs unless you want to carry the transformer around (no thanks).
The biggest negative for me at this point is the limited number of users. There simply isn’t much feedback on the machine like other lasers. I have not been able to call anyone from the 3 pages of names the rep left with me yet.
Anyone who has thoughts (especially someone with a Powerlase) I would greatly appreciate some Powerlase thoughts. This forum is incredible and the people giving advice and tips are so helpful. Many thanks for simply being here to allow me to read and begin educating myself. I should send in for 8 hours CE….JK
Thank you once again.
Alan
SharazSpectatorI just wanted to introduce myself and my company as the Fotona dental laser dealer for the U.K. market, and would be happy to answer any questions you may have on the Powerlase unit. The unit is called the Fidelis Plus in Europe, and is one of the largest selling laser in the European market.
I have contacted Fotona direct with regards to entering this forum to answer your questions direct so as to get a manufacturers perspective on your questions.
Hope we can be of help
dmd92eastSpectatorI see the value of an erbium as many have you have kindly replied to my posts, but what are your feelings on the original WAterlase. What should I look for and could this fit my bill considering where I am on the fence? Thanks all.
Glenn van AsSpectatorWarrantee is an issue, how long have they had it, check out the trunk fibers as these are an issue etc.
I will tell you that you WILL need a warrantee as you will have problems early on during the learning curve and will blow a fiber. Be prepared to pay for a warrantee and service and it isnt cheap.
Glenn
kapaluaSpectatorHi all,
Is anyone using the Odyssey II for laser bleaching? If so what is the protocol and what should I look out for in terms of potential problems? Thanks!
dkimmelSpectatorDon’t do it! You only want an Er with varible HZ.
That said the old watrelase did me well and is still working. As far as warrantee, never,never ever be without one….. Thats never!!!
Kenneth LukSpectatorHi,
It seems the 50us is a good pd. What is the protocal ?
At 2 to 4 Hz?
With what size fiber tip ?
Is this setting efficient in cutting enamel as well as dentine ?
Thanks,
Ken
Kenneth LukSpectatorhi dmd92est.
I’ve bought the erbium over the cerec.
I think you already have a cerec but wants to upgrade, correct? There’s always a better version ariund the corner, so why not stick to the one you’ve got for the time being?
My patients love the erbium: no noise of the turbine, no vibration of the low speed. I still give LA for my restorations.
Next stop for me will be the cerec. I like the photo imp but I’d e-mail the image to the lab and get it within 48hrs. They can do the staining and everything. At least I have someone to blame if it does not fit…..
Ken
Glenn van AsSpectatorNope not using it for bleaching. As someone told me , why use an expensive surgical laser as a light when a regular curing light will do as good a job (ie no difference to no light) as the laser.
The length of time the bleach is on the teeth and the concentration of the bleach is what is most important for the effect.
I have the laser, I have the bleach. I use a curing light with the bleach if that is what they want.
Keep the diode for tissue troughing etc.
Just my two cents worth.
Glenn
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